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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2182)	4/12/2002 10:42:00 PM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 32591

Keep in mind that she was a divorce so it may be a baby out of wedlock which means her family and offspring would be castrated in arab society ....... so why not kill some Jews and get security for life for your family and children ?

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2182)	4/13/2002 4:01:28 AM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

the report i heard over CBS is the "pregnancy" was one big load of explosives. it was a visual impression she was pregnant and then she exploded, she herself is nothing but a mass of widely distributed body parts. So no statement that she was actually pregnant can be answered. But due to the particularly massive force of this bomb.(it was an open air explosion). I will assume the "bulge" was a large belt of explosives.

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2182)	4/13/2002 4:39:49 AM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

just to put to rest this pregnancy matter <<BBC News Online's Tarik Kafala In Jerusalem The sound of the bomb rang out clearly across Jerusalem, followed two or three minutes later by the whine of sirens. Within 15 minutes, when I got close to the bomb scene, police were trying to move the gathering crowd away. All our police, all our army and we still get this all the time. I don't know if attacking the Palestinians is good, but we must do something Israeli shopkeeper A Palestinian woman had detonated a huge bomb after a bus pulled up at a crowded bus stop. The force of the blast had blown out the windows of the bus. And all around, the street was strewn with fuit, vegetables and pieces of glass. The scene was one of chaos. Scores of injured wandered towards the ambulances. Some, bloodies and crying, were tended to by medics. Rescue workers in their orange sleeveless jackets ran through their well-practised routine of treating the injured and ferrying them away>> news.bbc.co.uk <<The bomber was identified as a woman from the Jenin refugee camp. Police say she had earlier tried to enter the market but was probably deterred by the heavy security presence. >> which means she was just wandering about to get in place to detonate strange no fear just a singular focus "explode myself and that about me" news.bbc.co.uk

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (2182)	4/13/2002 5:38:18 AM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

i will not remain silent --an old post in which Hawkmoon said <If you look back at the history of Palestine, especially the West Bank, after it was captured from the Turks, you'll find that the British intended to permit Jewish settlement in all of Trans-Jordan, the territory that included Israel, the West Bank, and present day Jordan.>( and i responded that actuallly just adds fuel to the issue in that an imperial colonialist power Britain was arbitarily making the decisions--it is this aspect that that has opened up the charges that Israel was riding the coat-tails of British colonialism. I myself see only tragedy on all sides--the prime event of the Israel movement was the 2nd Exodus--and what fueled that exodus? A people FLEEING ABSOLUTE HORROR--the horror of Europe that had decided the only good jew is a dead jew. I ask where does the central/fundamental guilt stand,with Europe or with Palestine?--the answer,with europe,europe,europe,europe.Max>> siliconinvestor.com. What were the early terrorist activities of jews in Palestine but the acts of despairing desperate people. Slaughtered brutalized hunted down desperate people fleeing the evil of europe's vile psychotic evil anti-semitism. Will you deny that the racist fascist views of the deceased Meir Kahane have not infiltrated in a significant portion of the jewish world? I personally knew when Begin opened up the gateway to settlements (settlements settled by zealots that have the gall to reduce G_d to a real-estate agent that has ordained the occupied territories as belonging to them by a declaration of G_d)being rapidly established in the occupied territory; i knew then, that unless this policy was reversed and the settlements dismantled we would someday end up we're we are now. My last hope i feel vanished when Rabin was assassinated by a zealot representing the faction that view "the only good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian" and Palestinians were just a less than human people living on land the G_d had given to the jews. It was then i could see the extremist of both sides would rule the future. Max p.s. i am a Gnostic, much of my beliefs come via the study of Jewish Gnosticism. I came to this faith, as i was a militant atheist due to the Shoah. That G_d did not intervene to the DESPERATE cries of Holymen for deliverance from the horror upon them concluded there is no G-d ruling over this earth, but something lesser something insane something unworthy of prayer.And i decided i will not participate with this insanity. But as the Kabbalist mystics described the seed, and how it became ensnared in this world, i came to deeper understanding. i have said enough. i am getting into private matters.