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To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24912)	4/13/2002 3:35:51 AM
From: FaultLine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It doesn't jive [sic] with the facts, but then Liberals don't have to base their arguements [sic] on truth Are you talking to me? --fl@iamnotamused.com

To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24912)	4/13/2002 3:41:32 AM
From: FaultLine	Respond to of 281500

Sometimes a fancy degree from a fancy school is just a cover for the fact that someone does not have even a shred of common sense. Please see my profile for a lesson in common sense. --fl

To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24912)	4/13/2002 10:07:58 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

. . . .but then Liberals don't have to base their arguements on truth. And conservatives have all the truth?? How about some liberals don't pay attention to something you would call the facts and some conservatives don't either. And some liberals do and some conservatives do. It's the interpretation of these things you call the facts that's the difference.

To: William B. Kohn who wrote (24912)	4/13/2002 10:15:57 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

The simple truth is their was a deal, and it was an American deal, the Israeli's including Barak accepted the Palestinians accepted and then presented it to Arafat. He alone, to the shock of Clinton and his own staff, rejected the deal, without any reason given, no more talk, he was through. Two things wrong with this assertion. First, the history here is very complicated. And no one appears to have an authoritative version. Perhaps we'll get one, perhaps not. But in the meantime, given your devotion to the "facts", it's best to acknowledge that they are much contested here. Second, tek has observed that Dennis Ross is not among the more reliable sources here. Ross, if I remember the history correctly, was involved in ME negotiations under Bush I, cleaned up his resume to do the same with Clinton, and now has cleaned up his resume again, hoping to get a position with Bush II. Sounds as if, from your rendering, he's gonna be successful.