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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3604)4/14/2002 1:53:34 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
Israel is completely out of line with their grasping for territory. They're just like our forbears in the U.S. were when it came to nixing the Narragansetts, bludgeoning the Blackhawks, suppressing the Sioux, choking the Comanches and murdering the Modocs. They are genocidal Nazis and colonialist pigs, and they need to be stopped.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3604)4/14/2002 2:40:50 AM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
We must condemn Bush and Sharon for the massacres in Jenin, the destruction of Palestinian cities
and the force the Israeli army used against Palestinians in other areas. I am not sure why Sharon
and Bush blame Arafat for all the atrocities because Arafat is literally under house arrest. His
compound is destroyed and he cannot leave.

Bush has one standard of justice for Israel and another for Palestine. At the very least Bush is a callous
hypocrite. I believe he and Sharon have gotten along because both believe the ends justify the means.
Neither care for the many people who have been injured or killed.

I sincerely hope Sharon is tried for war crimes.

PS: Sharon denies the atrocities but on the news the other night I saw a Palestinian man who had cigarette
burns around the back of his neck. I don't recall if the Israel army shot him as well.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3604)4/14/2002 2:42:17 AM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 15516
 
West Bank Atrocities
The Christian Science Monitor
Editorial

The Monitor's View from the April 12, 2002 edition


The trip to Israel and the West Bank by Secretary of State Colin
Powell should not be only for peace. It must also hold both sides to
account for atrocities.

Yasser Arafat should admit he's failed to jail
or hand over bomb plotters to Israel, and
failed to tell Palestinians - in Arabic - that
violence against Israeli civilians must stop.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, too, must face
a reckoning by the US and others for the
Israeli Army's two-week assault on West
Bank cities.

While many would-be bombers were killed or
captured, the utter destruction of civilian
homes and urban infrastructure, especially in
Jenin, was an atrocity on the order of the
1982 killing of Palestinian civilians by Israel-controlled forces in
Lebanon.)

The devastation of major Palestinian cities went way beyond the
army's goal of simply uprooting "the infrastructure of terror." An Israeli
group called Rabbis for Human Rights yesterday stated that it is
aware of many human rights violations and forms of collective
punishment inflicted by the army. These include disruption of water
and food supplies for civilians, demolition of homes, torture of
detainees, killing of innocent civilians, and denial of care for the
injured and for women in labor.


By their actions, Sharon and Arafat have set back their mutual goal
of a Palestinian state. And they undermine the US goal of reducing
Arab support for the Al Qaeda terrorist network.

Failing to see these wrongs will only hinder their ability to create the
right peace.

csmonitor.com



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3604)4/14/2002 2:46:00 AM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 15516
 
Amid Israeli attack, tales of abuse
The Christian Science Monitor
from the April 12, 2002 edition


As Israel pulled out of some West Bank towns yesterday, Jenin, a center
of Palestinian militancy, remained
closed.


By Cameron W. Barr | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

BURQIN, WEST BANK - From a rocky olive orchard above this West
Bank village, Jenin and its refugee camp seemed placid yesterday.
Almost nothing moved. A few Israeli tanks and armored personnel
carriers rumbled along deserted streets. Inside the camp, two burning
buildings sent streams of smoke into a hazy sky.

But here in Burqin and several other nearby villages, refugees from
Israel's 10-day-old invasion of Jenin and its camp spoke loudly and
incessantly of horrors: a cigarette stubbed out on a man's skin, five
young men executed in plain sight, mass burials by bulldozer.


Sitting down to relate her story yesterday,
Atra Nijmi looked at a handful of reporters
and burst into tears. Her words came in
torrents as well. "They destroyed the house,
they killed children and they killed boys,"
she said, the "they" being Israeli soldiers.

"There's no water, nothing to clean clothes
with," she continued. "The airplanes
bombed, night and day."


Although Israeli troops withdrew yester- day
from 24 villages in the West Bank, they
remain in major population centers in their
campaign to root out the "infrastructure of
terror." In meetings in Israel today, Secretary
of State Colin Powell was expected to press
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to withdraw, but
Mr. Sharon has made it clear the operations
will continue until his government determines
they are completed.

The Israelis acknowledge that they have
faced bitter resistance in Jenin's refugee camp - hundreds of armed
fighters who used rifles, grenades, mines, and in one case, a suicide
bomber, to fight Israel's advance. But Israeli spokesmen also
vehemently deny Palestinian assertions that a massacre has
occurred there.

The Israeli military said that a final group of three-dozen Palestinian
fighters surrendered in the camp yesterday morning, apparently
solidifying Israel's control over the area.

Israeli officials say their soldiers operate with the utmost concern for
civilians they encounter. "Strict orders were issued," says Brig. Gen.
Ron Kitrey, the Israeli military's chief spokesman. "Hold back the fire
the moment you see or feel civilian families."

csmonitor.com



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3604)4/14/2002 3:07:21 AM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
Ten-day ordeal in crucible of Jenin

Peter Beaumont in the West Bank meets eyewitnesses
who accuse Israel of massacre Observer Worldview

Peter Beaumont
Observer

Sunday April 14, 2002

The Israeli soldiers are pulling out in dribs and drabs from the
West Bank city of Jenin. Yesterday their tank transporters were
lined back-to-back along the road, awaiting their cargoes.

The guns have fallen silent. The helicopters that swarmed angrily
above the city's roofs, firing indiscriminately into the city's
crowded refugee camp, have been reduced to a single
intermittent aircraft on patrol.

There are still Israeli soldiers in the city. Still tanks. But the last
Palestinian gunmen surrendered two days ago, among them
men who were on Israel's 'most wanted' list. The city's men have
been rounded up for screening. The battle of Jenin is over: in
fact, if not in memory.

The battle of Jenin will be remembered as the most bitter of Ariel
Sharon's short, vicious war on terrorism - the campaign he has
called Operation Protective Wall. More than 100 Palestinians
died, perhaps twice that number, many of them civilians. Israel
saw its greatest combat loss in a single incident in years, when
13 soldiers were lured into a deadly ambush.

Only now is the nature of the battle becoming clear, redefining
the mutual animosity of Israeli and Palestinian.

The Palestinians have called it a 'massacre', alleging that their
houses were bulldozed with families still inside, that helicopters
fired indiscriminately on a civilian area, and that ambulances
were prevented from reaching the wounded in a calculated policy
that meant they would bleed to death.

Israeli soldiers contend that their colleagues were lured to their
deaths, their units were attacked by suicide bombers, and that
militants they have captured were behind suicide and gun
attacks on Israel's cities. They charge that the camp at Jenin
was a cancer that needed to be cut out.

What is clear, however, is that between these two positions it is
the civilians of Jenin who have suffered the most. Israelis may
talk of punishment and retribution for the militants' attacks. But if
a crime has been committed, it has also been against the
ordinary people of Jenin.

The doctor pulled off the bandages that swathed the knee of Ali
Mustapha Abu Sani to show us the damage. Ali Mustapha
winced with pain in his hospital bed. Drilled into his knee was a
large hole where the bullet had smashed into his kneecap,
shattering two bones.


The point of showing us this was not to see the bullet hole, the
doctor said, but the first signs of gangrene within the knee,
swollen to twice its normal size. They had caught it just in time.

Ali Mustapha had been shot six days before. He says Israeli
soldiers who took him from his house used him as a human
shield. As they walked him down the street in front of them
another Israeli fired the shot that wounded him. The soldiers left
him to be taken in by neighbours, who called the Red Cross and
the Red Crescent. They tried to call the local offices of the UN.
But no one could reach him where he lay.


So he stayed there for six days until his friends could load him
on a ladder and carry him to where they flagged down a lorry
outside the camp. Only then did he reach the hospital.

The 42-year-old teacher tells us other stories of his days trapped
in the camp before and after he was wounded. He tells us of the
wholesale bulldozing of homes to open avenues of attack. He
says many were killed, some hiding in their basements, refusing
to come out when the bulldozers came.


It is a story we have heard several times before, but without
detail. I ask him to tell me the names of those who died in this
way. 'The household of Abu Naif Zagrah,' says Ali Mustapha with
certainty. Who else? 'The households of Mazen al-Ghul and
Abura al-Ghul.' He continues: 'Abu Jawad Narseh and Abu
Jawad al-Asmar.'

On Friday, even as the fighting had died down, it was still
impossible to enter Jenin camp to check the stories we had
heard. The Israeli army was blocking all entrances.

As Ali Mustapha is speaking, Dr Mahmud Abu Isleih enters the
ward. He tells us of the houses destroyed in 10 days of heavy
fighting. 'Hundreds of families were obliged to leave the camp,'
he says. 'They called to them: "Get out of your homes".'

He says they are sheltering in Jenin city, in the municipality
building, in people's homes, in the headquarters of the Red
Crescent and in the local schools.


A young man in a red sweatshirt, adds his voice. A resident of
the camp, he gives his name as Maaz Staty, aged 22. He says
some people were too afraid to leave their basements. They died
in their homes.

He says his mother died in this way. So too did someone he
calls Isa Weshaky. He mentions his cousin, Ataf Dasouki, aged
52, who opened the door when bid to by the soldiers and was
shot down.


Isleih says he has been trapped in the hospital for 10 days. 'On
the first day of the fighting a young man of 30 years or so was
shot a few metres from outside our door, near the entrance to
the mosque.

'We wanted to help him, so we called to the Israelis to let us
approach him. They refused. Two of the staff went out, but there
was a large explosion near by, so they fled back to the hospital.
Finally two nurses went out under a white flag. They took him in,
but he was already dead.' His name, he tells us, was Monzer
al-Haj.

The ferocity of Israel's attack upon this little city and its small
refugee camp of just 13,000 among the hills requires
explanation.

For Israelis, Jenin is the 'cobra's head' in Palestinian terrorism. It
is from here, they will tell you with some justification, that a
large number of the suicide bombers have come.

They will tell you that among the senior terrorists captured are
Sheikh Ali Safuri of Islamic Jihad, who sent suicide bombers to
Hadera, Afula, Haifa and Binyamina. Captured, too, was Thabet
Mardawi, one of the sheikh's colleagues responsible for the
deaths of 16 Israelis in a slew of attacks. The suicide bomber
behind last Wednesday's bus bombing near Haifa came from
Jenin. But should even their presence permit the wholesale
assault on a largely civilian area that resulted in such heavy loss
of life?

The man in charge of the operation is Brigadier-General Eyal
Shlein. Shlein, like Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, denies the
Palestinian claims that a 'massacre' took place. Their version is
that those who died were combatants in very heavy fighting.
Shlein believes few civilians were killed, despite the claims of
those at the hospital and the evidence of the dead and wounded
we see there.


Shlein believes too that the Israeli army showed restraint while
operating in Jenin. 'There would have been no problem
completing the operation immediately,' he told the Israeli
newspaper Ha'aretz on Friday. 'But we are a humane army.'

Other Israeli officers, also interviewed by Ha'aretz, do not seem
so certain about the humanity of some actions. They admit the
Palestinian claims of extensive damage, including the bulldozing
of houses. They admit too that Israeli soldiers fired on
ambulances to drive them away from recovering the wounded.


'The IDF bulldozed all houses from which shooting was coming,'
said one officer, 'especially after the 13 reserve soldiers were
killed. We did not allow the Red Cross to come to the camp to
treat the wounded. Shots were fired at some ambulances that
tried to enter.'


So what of Shlein's other claims? In particular about Israeli
restraint in the use of airpower?

We had driven to the outskirts of Jenin a week ago for the first
time. It was strange how small the city seemed, set among the
green hills of the West Bank, surrounded by rich farmland and
thick olive groves.

A resident pointed out the camp itself. It is built on a low ridge
that sticks out from the neighbouring mountain like a finger. The
white tower of a mosque protrudes from the line of roofs. On one
side it is bounded by an open field.

By then the fighting had been raging for five days. We watched
the Israeli armour pouring in, and from a rooftop in the adjoining
village of Wad Burqin, we watched the fighting.

But fighting is the wrong word. It suggests a parity of violence.

Instead, what we could see was a long-range assault, unequal in
every part. We could see the tanks manoeuvering and shelling
houses from the plain. We could hear them firing from the ridge
behind us. Most shocking, however, were the Apache helicopter
gunships
that hovered like an angry swarm above the city,
approaching, often in pairs, and firing bursts of cannon-fire every
five minutes into the camp. Every now and then they would fire a
pair of missiles which would explode and send a plume of darker
smoke above the white haze of gunsmoke already hanging
above the camp.

We learn the consequences of these strafing runs five days
later. Dr Zaid Ayasi, director of the hospital, tells us that many
of the civilian victims that he knows of were hit by helicopter fire
in those few days.


But the violence is not the end of the story in Jenin. It appears
not to be enough that the gunmen of Jenin have been defeated,
but that every man in the city should share in that capitulation.

Slipping deep into the city on Friday, despite a curfew and its
designation as a closed military zone, we are surprised to
encounter large groups of Palestinian men all heading in the
same direction.

Following them discreetly, we are approached by a man who will
only give his name as Hussam. He calls us to accompany them
and talks rapidly at us as we walk.

An hour earlier, Hussam tells us, the Israelis had come with
their armoured personnel carriers and loudspeakers and ordered
every man who was between the age of 15 and 55 to gather in a
central location.

The men are too scared to disobey. And so we watch them
leaving their homes and gathering in their hundreds, snaking in a
long line towards a pale blue arch across the highway, where
they are being gathered forscreening by soldiers.

Among them is a local journalist. I do not have time to get his
name before the Israelis chase us away. He asks us to
intercede on his behalf and shows us his press card to prove his
bona fides . We are forced to tell him that we are as much in
danger of being arrested as he.

And what will happen to them has already been described to me
by Azz Bassam, whom we meet the evening before entering the
city proper on our second visit in a neighbouring village. It is a
wholesale and humiliating process of filtration.

We meet Azz in Wad Burqin in the house of a relative where he
has fled, not long after he has been released from detention by
the Israelis. Azz is 14. He lived inside the camp.

He shows us his wrists, bruised and cut where the Israelis taped
his hands with plastic after forcing him to undress. He says the
soldiers were looking for his father, although he avoids
explaining why.

His house, he says, is burnt. He has no news of his brother
Abdul Karim. Another brother, Ibrahim, was shot in the leg by an
Israeli sniper. His father, he says, is missing too.

Azz has a Polaroid taken during his detention, as he has no
papers. It is crumpled but he produces it from his jeans pocket.
When we meet him he is elated with relief at being released.
The Polaroid shows a different picture. It bears a number on the
back - 850230976 - and shows a miserable and terrified child
wearing only a blanket.

The soldiers told him that if he was captured again he should
show the picture to prove he has been questioned and
processed.

'They kept me half-naked in the cold, without food or water for
two days,' he says. 'Then they questioned me for half an hour.
They asked me what I knew about Islamic Jihad and the Tanzim
mili tia. Then they let me go.' But others have not been so lucky.


Azz tells us too about the beginning of the Israeli assault. 'They
surrounded the camp at first. They had tanks to prevent anyone
escaping. Everyone who tried to leave ran the risk of being shot.

'We stayed there for three days trapped in our house,' he says.
'Then the Apaches came. After that they began firing from the
air.' He tells us that he heard of many people shot in their
homes by the Apaches.

I think of Azz when I see the line of Jenin's men waiting to be
processed. There will be suspected terrorists among them, and
their presence will be used by Israel to justify its actions.

For the rest, Friday's mass round-up will be a symbol not only of
their city's capitulation but the continuing humiliation of their
people. On Friday night a young woman from Jenin, strapped
explosives around her waist and blew herself up beside a
Jerusalem bus.

This is not how terrorism is defeated.




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