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To: Exacctnt who wrote (67278)	4/14/2002 7:41:10 PM
From: John F. Dowd	Respond to of 74651

Exacctnt: Excellent. Bravo! I don't what it is with these guys and others who can't relate dilution to the issue price. One is only diluted when the currnt price at which the options are exercised is lower than the present market price. It really is a pretty simple thing. These guys don't understand because they are not investors. JFD

To: Exacctnt who wrote (67278)	4/14/2002 10:52:16 PM
From: David Howe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

Exacctnt, Good post. jonny is fully aware of these facts, however he continues to spread FUD, or as you put it << deliberately distort and lie >> There is no doubt that jonny is a liar and has no problem with knowingly distorting reality in order to further his agenda. IMO, Dave

To: Exacctnt who wrote (67278)	4/15/2002 12:45:40 PM
From: jonkai	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

Once again you deliberately distort and lie about the impact of ESO's. fact 1 through 6, MSFT has over 850 million ESO's outstanding, and adding about 200 million ESO's per year ontop of that..... this Diluting effect is not at all close to figured into the earnings, and that is why MSFT produces two sets of earnings numbers.... why do you even make a statement like that when you can easily look up how many ESO's are included in the diluted sharecount.... which is 161 million on their last earnings report, yet as you point out, 533 million ESO's are in the money..... do you not know how to add or what? not only that, as a shareholder, you are hoping that the share price goes up, which if it did would eventually include ALL 850 million options outstanding, not to mention the extra 200 million per year that are granted on average for the past few years..... do you want the price to go down or something? are you really that math challenged that you didn't know that MSFT only includes 161 million in the street released earnings reports? really, i'm curious to know whether you are just math challenged or a moron too? question 1. ask yourself why MSFT produces two sets of earnings reports with different ESO calcs, if the first set has these ESO effects included???.... question 2. ask yourself why MSFT is against the reforms before congress to include ALL the dilution of ESO's if they already are included? question 3. ask yourself why MSFT has spent millions lobbying congress to not include the dilution of ESO's if the dilution is already figured in? question 4. ask yourself why you say there is approximately 533 million ESOs in the money yet MSFT only reports 161 million or so ESOs in the dilution calculation? hello? anybody home over there?