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To: Elizabeth Andrews who wrote (2212)4/14/2002 10:52:42 PM
From: teevee  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8273
 
Elizabeth,

I think you are missing the point. Are raw logs a commodity or not?

yes, raw logs are a commodity. So is dimension lumber.

Are they going to be priced as other commodities?

Raw logs and dimension lumber already are priced as commodities. You can even buy and sell dimension lumber futures.

This is the starting point. If Canada can't agree on that then there's a problem that will only go away when all BC mills are shut down due the countervailing tariffs. They are only going higher not lower.

Those surplus logs and dimension lumber from B.C. are produced under the same forestry system and laws that the American lumber lobby loves to hate. Why should logs be exempt? If the US won't apply tarrifs and duties to raw logs, B.C. should. It would only close a glaring loop hole in the existing laws. Whats good for the goose, is good for the gander, is it not? I think the real problem is that although the american home building consumer gains far more from competively priced lumber than the Yankee lumber barons who can't compete, the homebuilders do not have as strong a voice in Washington.

Is it a free trade zone or no?
Apparently not when yanks can't compete in the market place. Isolationist bully tactics will only do more harm than good.



To: Elizabeth Andrews who wrote (2212)4/15/2002 12:42:41 AM
From: marcos  Respond to of 8273
 
No lumber - then no logs ... i mean geez Liz, look at the hypocrisy in that - if the wood is as they claim too cheap, then it's just as much too-cheap in log form as it is as lumber ... only difference is, the mafiosos get to control the business, and ultimately our land

Only way they make a United Fruit out of us is the way they did it down south - send in the goons ... but it sounds like they'll need a new general -

"''I spent 33 years and four months in active
service as a member of our country's most agile military force - the
Marine Corps. I served in all commisioned ranks from second
lieutenant to major-general. And during that period I spent most of my
time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street,
and for the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism... thus I
helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil
interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the
National City Bank to collect revenues in... I helped purify Nicaragua
for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I
brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests
in 1916. I helped make Honduras `right' for American fruit companies
in 1903.' '
... retired General Smedley D. Butler, in his memoirs in 1935
'

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