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To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3628)4/15/2002 6:47:12 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 15516
 
John Ashcroft wants to destroy the records of gun sales after 24 hours.

Is John Ashcroft mentally sound? Does John Ashcroft have something to hide?
I believe Congress and the public should scrutinize his actions. John Ashcroft has
an obsessive interest in guns. Why?

See following article that was published in Los Angeles Times.



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3628)4/15/2002 6:48:36 PM
From: Mephisto  Respond to of 15516
 

Justice Dept. Withholds Papers
Access: Ashcroft's gun sales proposal is the latest battleground between Congress and the administration.

The Los Angeles Times

THE NATION


By ERIC LICHTBLAU, TIMES STAFF WRITER

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration is once again squaring off
against congressional investigators over access to government
records--this time involving a controversial proposal that a new report
says could make it easier for criminals to illegally buy weapons.

Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft wants to begin having the FBI destroy records
of all gun sales within 24 hours of a purchase--a significant departure
from the current 90-day standard. But a preliminary review released
Thursday by the General Accounting Office suggests that the change
would allow hundreds of disqualified buyers, including felons and the
mentally ill, to bypass safeguards and illegally purchase guns each year.


What the brief GAO report does not mention, however, is that senior
congressional investigators have been tussling with the Justice
Department behind the scenes for months in an effort to get far more
documentation about the issue. Investigators want to know how
Ashcroft, a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment, arrived at his
proposal and who weighed in.
The Justice Department is refusing to turn over such material. "Their
response is, 'That's not appropriate for release.' They have kept a close hold on anything they
consider to be part of the deliberative process. We don't particularly agree with that, but that's
where we stand," said Dan R. Burton, an assistant GAO director.

After more than four months of delays, the Justice Department ultimately gave investigators access
to FBI officials to discuss the impact of Ashcroft's proposal, GAO officials said. But FBI officials
were directed "not to talk about anything regarding the deliberative process," Burton said, and GAO
officials say that many key questions remain unanswered.

The dispute has frustrated congressional investigators, and it mirrors a pattern of standoffs between
the Bush administration and Congress over access to information.

The GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, sued the White House in February over its refusal to
turn over documents concerning Vice President Dick Cheney's energy plan. Separately, a group of
House Democrats is suing the Census Bureau for access to information on how it arrived at
adjusted 2000 census figures. And congressional leaders have been irked by the refusal of
Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge and Medicare Director Thomas Scully to testify on Capitol
Hill about key administration policies.

Open-government advocates said the escalating series of run-ins signals the administration's
insistence on keeping its business behind closed doors and Congress' determination to get an inside
look at how the administration conducts its affairs.

"We're seeing a new closed society under the Bush administration," charged Joan Claybrook,
president of Public Citizen, a Washington-based advocacy group that is representing the members
of Congress suing for the census data.


"Congress has a right to be nosy, and they may be fighting a little bit harder these days because the
administration has shut them out," she said. The White House "thinks these issues are none of the
public's business, and they forget that Congress has established again and again that the public has a
right to know what its government is doing."

Justice Department officials had no immediate comment on the issue.

In July, Ashcroft announced his plan to maintain gun purchase records for only a day, saying that
keeping the records for months at a time threatened to violate the buyers' right to privacy and was
not the intention of Congress when it set up the gun-check system.

In 1998, the FBI began operating a massive nationwide data clearinghouse that reviews millions of
gun purchases a year. Most transactions are cleared in a matter of seconds once it is determined
that the prospective buyer has no criminal record or other problem that would ban a purchase. The
system has blocked hundreds of thousands of illegal sales.

Ashcroft's proposal to destroy FBI records of the gun purchases within 24 hours has drawn rave
reviews from the National Rifle Assn. But gun control groups say it would decimate the background
check system, and they said Thursday's preliminary assessment from the GAO--requested by Sen.
Richard Durbin (D-Ill.)--confirms their fears.

Based on FBI data, GAO investigators found that between July and October of last year, there
were 100 cases in which authorities used data that had been kept up to 90 days to go back to try to
retrieve guns from people who were not authorized to buy them. That would amount to about 300
unauthorized purchases over the course of a year.

These illegal sales "never would have been identified under the next-day destruction system," and
authorities would not have been able to go back to try to find the buyers, said Burton, of the GAO.

Many of the unauthorized sales appear to have involved situations where a buyer's conviction in a
domestic assault--a banned category--was not immediately apparent through the FBI check system,
he said.


Matthew Nosanchuk, legislative counsel for the Violence Policy Center in Washington, said the
GAO report is "proof positive from an independent source of what we've been saying all along
about the danger this would cause. This isn't hypothetical; these are 100 felons who got guns and
wouldn't have been identified if the records were destroyed."

The GAO expects to put out a full report on the gun issue in June, and Burton said investigators
expect to provide Congress with a substantial understanding of the impact of Ashcroft's proposal.

But he said senior officials have renewed their requests in just the last several days for access to a
much broader range of information.

"We've asked for really any kind of relevant documentation that [Justice Department officials] have
regarding the reasoning behind their proposal--the reasons for reducing it from 90 days to one day,
the plans for implementing the change, and what analysis has been done about the potential effects,"
he said. "That's information we haven't gotten from them so far."

latimes.com



To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (3628)4/15/2002 11:35:14 PM
From: Mephisto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516
 
CHANGE OF TOPIC!

Pat, do you grow Siberian Irises in California? Are they easy to divide? I'm not very good with
irses. I feel good if they come up each year. (LOL)