To: SARMAN who wrote (42412 ) 4/16/2002 3:26:01 AM From: IQBAL LATIF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167 <The timing of the article opens it to many interpretations. Can you clarify your intent?> Quoting from your own words this is my intent.. All I am saying here is for once let us see things from both sides....... (Abdul Samadi) Religious fervour and zeal leads to extreme actions, our total lack of condemnation in case of massive genocides of minorities by Asad, Saddam, Hussien or Bashir and secular Turkey shows me one thing that a Muslim can spill blood of anyone without impunity in name of Allah or state or discipline and such iron clad measures are looked upon as very much normal, however if a non-Muslim state tries to defend its people against the excesses of Muslim than it is a big problem and everyone remembers human rights. In case of Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Jordan and Turkey none of the ethnic minorities persecuted practiced 'terror suicide bombing' as a tool, if that would be a case they would have killed and maimed the entire regions, here when Israelis go after selectively against the master mind of terror who hide behind the civilians than we try ot apply different set of interpretations. All I am saying here is for once let us see things from both sides. No one went into Jenin until spate of suicide bombing nearly led to crippling of civic life in Israel, when you are dealing with people who think that by suicidal missions they can terrorise people who are cowards as they love life than any politics or strategy coming out of this whole thinking in my opinion is sick based on crippled frame of mind. I think the reason we have seen diminishing return for Arafat is because of the fact that he is bogged in destroying the fine balance in the world we live. Look at ‘Black September’ when these very Palestinians under Arafat started mass hijacking under Hadad just to get Leila Khalid free from UK custody who was also involved in trying to destroy and El-Al flight was example of their mind, their blood is dearer than anyone else. The purpose was to get King Hussein and overthrow him, they failed but that led to their forced removal from Jordan, and than in Beirut the Lebanese removed them in 1982. There is a difference between defence of a nation civilians and mass murder, that is the fine distinction I want to make, although I think that nay human right abuses by Israel are to equally condemned but I see from both sides as you want me to do, two wrongs make no right I agree with you Samadi. Genocides by early Muslims or by present dictator ships in Muslim countries our example of our indifferent, as I have asked several times will you join me to condemn what is taking place all over the Muslim world, that we are little economical with, and moreover when I call upon to help me join to praise US for saving Bosnians and Albanian Muslims we tend to look the other way or to praise Soros for what he did for Sarajevo. I think to portray this, as annihilation of Arabs is a total mistake, the failure of Arabs to seize the moment and failure of Arabs to condemn human rights violation in their own backyard is the beginning of the double standards. You take care it was fine talking to you after a long time, we revisited history and helped dig some specifics, my pleasure that you intellectually motivated me otherwise most of these facts would have been less known to my children.