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To: stockman_scott who wrote (25501)4/16/2002 2:16:39 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The whole Arab world considers the existence of Israel, and their own persistent inability to destroy Israel, humiliating. All else is commentary.



To: stockman_scott who wrote (25501)4/16/2002 2:32:35 AM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi stockman_scott; OT Re: "... marking the prisoners with writing on their arms."

That gave me goose bumps, along with this one: "The troops held him for hours and then took his photo with a Polaroid camera and released him, telling him not to return to Jenin." #reply-17335691

-- Carl



To: stockman_scott who wrote (25501)4/16/2002 9:06:56 AM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 281500
 
Chief of Staff Shaul Mofaz was very tardy with his reservations about marking the prisoners with writing on their arms. Brig. Gen. Gershon Yitzhak, commander of IDF forces in the West Bank, said yesterday that the blindfolds and cuffing of the prisoners, was insensitive. The belated reservations from the high command about the operation raise questions. Didn't the commanders instruct the soldiers in advance how to deal with the civilians? It is worrisome to discover that the chief of staff and the commander of the forces were unaware from the start of the profound significance of wide-scale friction with the population.

The idea of humiliation has apparently seeped down to the soldiers from the government. Ariel Sharon wanted to humiliate the chairman of the Palestinian Authority, Yasser Arafat, by jailing him in Ramallah. His aide, Uri Shani, said as much on Monday when he said of Arafat, "he can only go from one cage to another." No wonder, then, that officers and soldiers act in the spirit of the supreme commander and his aides.


I've been reading the Jenin reports to see what to believe and not. This reads as very believable. The notion of "humiliation" seeping down through the ranks makes sense. Can anyone offer a functional reason for writing on the arms? I assume it's identification. But I'm more than a little suprised that Israeli troops would do that, given the way it echoes from times past.

While this is disturbing, it's not yet the large numbers of dead we've heard about. Waiting to see.