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To: Rambi who wrote (9180)4/16/2002 12:42:04 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21057
 
A bilingual test should leave no unilingual route to pass - half the questions in one tongue, half in the other, each subject such as maths or history split between them, would be the way to go, i should think ... because if you are not testing language capability as the base of all learning, what are you testing ... i see the lingual as more immediate and more important than other specific subjects because it includes much of the others - you don't get far in language before you need to pick up history, geography, culture, just to understand the terms ... conquer the language, and you have acquired much more

That article was about a test being applied in such a way that it had negative effects between schools, well that is a school board matter, ministry of education, that sort of thing is always with us ... but i don't think it should be a struggle between tongues, in a place where both belong

Here in BC, where english predominates and there is little french, we have french immersion classes beginning in the first grades, all subjects are taught solely in french .... people with roots in all tongues line up to get their kids into these, if necessary they'll sell their house and move to get in, because f.i. is where the best teachers and best level of education are found ... kids themselves love it, they get a degree of personal freedom not known in standard classes, they go places others don't, get class visitors others don't, it's more fun because it's more challenging ... french immersion has existed for years now, there are adults who attended, you ask them what they think and they rave about it, feel sorry for those who missed the opportunity

On the other side of it, if you applied this province-wide, you wouldn't have enough of those 'best teachers' and special situations, and you'd be including kids of parents with less concern of education, less acquired base on which to build ... so i'm not suggesting this could be much more wide-spread without great effort

Inmigrants not completely absorbing the dominant language - this happens, in the first generation ... i know a chinese lady who came to BC in the late forties, she has little to no english, traditional household, didn't need or want it ... but her kids are fully capable in both, very bright bunch too .... one is my good friend, he was telling me a while ago how she shocked them by getting something in english when they hadn't intended she should, very funny all round as it gave her that much more power as the matriarch, made her positively twinkly for months

But this is Tejas you're talking - bueno, sabemos todos la historia allá ... no es Nueva Inglaterra



To: Rambi who wrote (9180)4/16/2002 1:02:24 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 21057
 
Well put, Rambi. Those are exactly the points the bilingualists are missing.