To: tejek who wrote (145222 ) 4/19/2002 12:19:35 AM From: Joe NYC Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572777 Ted, I the example which Tim posted:If I am driving in a legal and reasonably safe manner, and then someone jumps out from behind a bush and I hit them and they die it is an accident. If someone walks down the street and I aim my car at them and run them over and they die, it is murder. The distinction in my earlier statement is almost exactly the same as the distinction between the car accident and the vehicular homicide. is perfect, and I hoped that it would help you out of your confusion. But if you don't see a difference between intended killing then lets just agree to disagree. There is no common ground.I understand your concern with intent. However an important part of terror is that the recipient has no idea when the action will end and if they will live through it. I contend that that is far more important in creating the feelings of terror than the intent of the perpetrator. Terror is not only about the victim, it is as much, or more about feelings of others as a response to the act of terror. For example, the dead Jews, the victims of the homicide bombings, their feelings not really relevant, because they are dead. It is about how the Israelis, who were not the targets feel. The intend is really the overriding principle, not how the direct victim feels. Because intent of the perpetrator is what has a potential to create terror. Another example, very mild compare to what's going on in Israel: There was this freak in NY/NJ area, who for no reason mowed down pedestrians on several occasions. While he was on the loose, there was some apprehension about cars on the roads acting weirdly. But this person killed only a few people, a fraction of the number of pedestrian fatalities in the states on NY and NJ. There are numerous accidents that kill pedestrians, but there is no feeling of terror among pedestrians, but one person with intention to kill pedestrians did create some sense of terror. Joe