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To: DavesM who wrote (248568)	4/16/2002 10:54:08 PM
From: rich4eagle	Respond to of 769670

Dave there is plenty of free hydrogen around to never have to mess with trying to convert water.

To: DavesM who wrote (248568)	4/16/2002 10:55:53 PM
From: gerard mangiardi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

You are assuming that extracting hydrogen from water will take large amounts of electricity. If it does the new plants can run on hydrogen as long as the energy value of the hydrogen extracted is greater than the electricity used to produce it. Can it be done today? I don't think so, but this is where research dollars should be focused.

To: DavesM who wrote (248568)	4/16/2002 11:12:12 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Here's an interesting story about a possible wild card in the game: Huge hydrogen stores found below Earth's crust Discovery suggests near limitless supply of clean fuel Robert Matthews Vancouver Sun Monday, April 15, 2002 LONDON -- Scientists have discovered vast quantities of hydrogen gas, widely regarded as the most promising alternative to today's dwindling stocks of fossil fuels, lying beneath the Earth's crust. The discovery has stunned energy experts, who believe that it could provide virtually limitless supplies of clean fuel for cars, homes and industry. canada.com

To: DavesM who wrote (248568)	4/17/2002 12:09:05 AM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 769670

Actually the idea is to put water in your tank and have the compressor right in your vehicle, or at least do this at a filling station sized plant. My knowledge is out-dated though. I heard Mercedes is working hard on it. Maybe they're close. But you don't need power plants to create hydrogen fuel. Each "gas station" would be its owner little hydrogen plant. At least that's my understanding. And why run them on electricity? You could run them onm hydrogen (in other words, converted water). clean, green, cheap but will take a lot of work and committment, especially standing up to the oil lobby who are terrified of this and will do anything to stop it including lie to us and corrupt our system. In the meantime, natural gas cars and hybrids work great.