To: quehubo who wrote (25717 ) 4/17/2002 12:09:52 AM From: captain_midnite Respond to of 281500 S Huntington's Clash of Civilizations- was a very enlightening book for me. The more I see what is going on in continental Europe, the more I wonder if they will survive the growing Islamic penetration of their borders. As it was for me, although it receives scorn from many. I re-read it recently when Bush made his "axis of evil" speech. What happened soon after? The altruistic Saddam came to the rescue of "axis" member Iran, vowing to defend her. One Huntington supposition was just that, Arab countries would "circle the wagons" against any foreign interloper. The academic response, as I read it, against Huntington therein was that Iran, an Islamic state, would have no friend from secular Iraq. I am currently reading "The Arab Predicament" by Ajami. It's interesting because it's published in '81(?) and thus current enough to see some of the players in 2002 while still sufficiently historical to see the arc of how everything has transpired. Outlines the post WWII Arab world up to Carter, Begin, and Khomeini. It's much more prequel than Ajami could have ever imagined. Some early 1980's prognostications regarding the Arab world seeing its future in what happened in Lebanon were rather startling. Until the entire world releases itself from the "oil hold" anything the US does to conserve is a bit moot, foreign policy wise. There's one oil market, and reduced use of ME oil by this country will have no correlation to how we will still be tied to the region. We're there for our allies as well, and will remain there if not drop one of ME oil was used in the US. If that's even possible to affectuate. Oh, we're going to be "in the desert" a long long time.