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To: JohnM who wrote (25770)	4/17/2002 11:17:49 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Carranza, just to be a bit provocative, if you wish to argue for black-white moral world, please do so. I see much gray. There are many shades of gray in morality. None apply here. Terrorism is plainly wrong. Without some greater justification, such as ending a conflict, as was the case in Nagasaki and Hiroshima but not in Dresden, the continuous targeting of civilians for indiscriminate death is simply amoral, reprehensible, unjustified, and should be dealt with ruthlessly in order to prevent it, regardless of the justification for the terror. Despair doesn't cut it, hardship doesn't cut it, angst doesn't cut it, and I'm not even sure that similar terror by an opponent cuts it, but I haven't reached a conclusion on that specific point. It doesn't apply here, in any event.

To: JohnM who wrote (25770)	4/17/2002 11:32:00 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

Yasser Arafat urges world action against siege By HADEEL WAHDAN Associated Press RAMALLAH, West Bank (April 17, 2002 9:09 a.m. EDT) - Israel's siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity is "shameful," Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat said Wednesday, appealing as well for international help to end his own confinement by Israeli forces. Arafat vented his rage to reporters after meeting with Secretary of State Colin Powell at his Ramallah office, which Israeli troops have surrounded since March 28. "I have to ask the Bush administration, the international community, is this acceptable that I cannot go out the door?" said Arafat, shaking with anger, complaining he could not escort Powell to his car. He warned that his isolation could have serious consequences. "Do you think this will not reflect in the whole stability and peace in the Middle East?" he said. Arafat was especially bitter about the two-week standoff at Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, where Israeli troops have surrounded about 200 armed Palestinians who took refuge inside the shrine. Heavy shooting erupted around the church briefly Tuesday night. "What (about) these shameful attacks for the Nativity Church, who can accept it internationally?" he said. "Who can accept this against these very holy sacred places?" Israeli soldiers peered through half-opened windows and listened to Arafat speaking as Powell drove away from the litter-strewn compound. Israeli troops overran Arafat's headquarters on the first day of an offensive across the West Bank. Arafat complained to Powell that Israel was reoccupying Palestinian cities rather than withdrawing from them, as demanded by the Bush administration. "They are continuing their aggression against the Palestinian people," Arafat said. It was the second time Powell traveled to Arafat's headquarters, despite objections from Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who said it would be a "tragic mistake" to break Arafat's isolation.