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To: FaultLine who wrote (25777)4/17/2002 12:57:08 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Well, as an old fan of John Le Carré, I can deal with the "all is gray" view. The existence of gray areas doesn't mean we shouldn't pursue our interests, but I do think we should maintain a little humility. Moral ambiguity seems a more realistic expectation in the wider world than "moral clarity", though the latter certainly makes for better wartime propaganda. Anybody with knowledge of, say, the US involvement in Cambodia, or perhaps more topically, Afghanistan, who can't acknowledge moral ambiguity there is either disingenuous or very selective in their historical reading. "Moral clarity" sounds perilously close to "the moral equivalent of the founding fathers" to me.

A quick search on that last phrase lead to this '95 article apparently from Jane's Defense Weekly, or some affiliated publication, which bears a certain odd resemblance to this old Atlantic article some leftist nut always refers to around here.

Arab Veterans of the Afghan War dalitstan.org

A scary little bit on the "democracy in Iraq" front:

The 'Afghans' expelled from Pakistan under pressure from Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia and the USA are often fugitives in their homelands. So many go to Iran, from where they are able to get to Sudan or northern Iraq. Here, Kurdish Islamic groups accommodate them until they are filtered out to other countries in the Arab world.

Well, the Iraqi Kurds, having been sold down the river more than once by the US, would be a little naive to put all their eggs in the CIA basket again, but who knows. Conclusion:

The wave of Islamic extremism sweeping the Middle East is increasingly deep-rooted. It is fuelled by not only the attempts to suppress it by the governments concerned but also the growing belief among the Muslim populations of the region that long-ignored political and economic reforms can only be squeezed out of the regimes in power, not obtained by negotiation. The fundamentalist creed also believes that the secular Arab governments must first be overthrown before the greater enemy, the West, can be tackled.

I do wish that the locals with the broad brush contempt and condemnation of all Arab governments would think about that a little from time to time. There's something about strange bedfellows lurking in there.