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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1524)	4/17/2002 12:31:56 PM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 6945

<< Barak offered 67% of illegally occupied Palestinian land. >> Palestinian Land??? What an outright lie! Israel took the West Bank from Jordan as a result of the 1967 war. Jordan is not claiming it, but millions of Arabs have infiltrated into the West Bank in order to steal the land. Emile, are you familiar with Arafat's track record of violence and misery, whereever he goes? ===> "Especially, in Jordan before King Hussein drove them out on Black September 1970 and in Lebanon where Arafat ran a 12 year Civil War that killed 100,000 Muslims and Christians ..." <=== The last thing that this world needs is a Palestinian state. It would be a disaster. It would be a awful failure. The Palestinian territories are controlled mostly by several terrorist groups. These groups are not interested in peace and prosperity for the Palestinian people. These terrorist groups are brutal thugs. ===> "A Palestinian State would be a mirror image of what Yassir Arafat created in Lebanon: a fully-fledged terrorist mini-state in the heart of Lebanon. Every refugee camp was used as an outpost, with weapons and munitions storage even in residential buildings, hospitals and schools so as to use civilians as human shields. Every corner controlled by Arafat’s PLO was a tariff collection point for anyone passing by on foot or car." gamla.org.il Palestinians would have a much better standard of living, peace and prosperity, if they were truly occupied by Israel, and the Palestinian terrorist groups, who are the real cause of Palestinian misery, were defeated and destroyed.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (1524)	4/17/2002 12:36:25 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 6945

I recently posted the link below to Thomas M who claimed the same thing you did. foxnews.com ROSS: Let's look at the terms. Let me spell out exactly what it was. It was something that we offered, by the way. There's a kind of imagery out there that Barak made an offer. It was a U.S. offer. HUME: Barak accepted it? ROSS: Barak was willing to accept it. HUME: Willing to accept it. ROSS: And the offer involved the following. When it came to territory, there was — going around Jerusalem, there was going to be the following. There was going to be a divided Jerusalem in the sense that the eastern part of the city has Jewish and Arab neighborhoods. The Arab neighborhoods were going to become part of the Palestinian state. They would be the capital for that state. So there would be an east Jerusalem capital for the Palestinian state. There would have been 97 percent of the territory that would have gone back to the Palestinians. When it came to the issue of refugees, there would have been a right of return to their state, not to Israel. We were talking about a two-state solution. ... When it came to security, there would have been an international process in the Jordan Valley. Now, I will tell you that Palestinian negotiators clearly thought this was acceptable. It was unacceptable to only one man — Yasser Arafat. .... There were going to get a net 97 percent of the territory. In the West Bank, it would have been 95 percent of the West Bank. There was going to be a swap that would have added onto the size of Gaza. They were going to have their own border with Jordan. There was not going to be an Israeli presence there. There were not going to be cantons. There were not going to be divisions. They were getting contiguous territory in the West Bank. When they say that, they're referring to a map the Israelis showed to them first in May, and a map the Israelis presented at Camp David in July. That was not what the United States presented in December.