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To: cosmicforce who wrote (9524)	4/17/2002 6:57:56 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

Most Jews consider themselves a "people". I'm not sure what the fuss is about. I grew up in a melting pot of immigrants. I grew up with the understanding that being Jewish had both a religious and ethnic component. The ethnic component seems reasonable to me in that Jewishness is passed on to one's children, who remain Jewish even if they abandon the religion, which many do. Jews in my neighborhood weren't looking for converts although people do convert. Jews can be a People without being racially pure or racist, which they aren't. I don't see why they shouldn't be considered equivalent to an ethnic group. With an asterisk, or course.

To: cosmicforce who wrote (9524)	4/17/2002 8:12:39 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

Trog is a complement. You must be posting on a different thread. I'm posting on Slightly Moderated Boxing Ring. :-) Most Jews consider themselves a "people". OK, then give me a definition of "people" that can be accurately and reliably used to different people? Are Arabs also a "people"? Are Americans? Hispanics? My point is that you statement that Jews are a race is not correct, not is Neo's that you are an anti-Semite. (If you are, you hide it very well.) A distinct group of separate genealogy. I guess that is what I meant by "race" But my understanding is that science has already given up the term as worthless as a discriminator. Genetically, there was a decimation of the human race about 50,000 years ago. They think humanity may have gone almost extinct, numbering in the few thousands. Hmmm.... Got links?