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To: Windsock who wrote (77584)	4/18/2002 9:22:53 PM
From: pgerassi	Respond to of 275872

Windsock: You need severe reading comprehension skill improvements. A few posts ago there was quoted a system comprised of not yet available McKinley CPUs arranged in a cluster. The post claimed that this was a powerful supercomputer system. You did not take to task that one so, I believe you are being either incredibly selective about what constitutes a "system" or you just do not like to admit that there are N-way Athlon systems where N>>2. Even Power4 clusters was allowed by you to be called a "system" and they just do the clustering at a board level. FYI there are many MP systems of which UMA SMP is a subclass. All of the top 500 supercomputers are of the NUMA class of which is disjoint to the SMP subclass. SMP just is not scalable very well. NUMA scales much better and is capable of far higher ultimate performance. So NUMA is just as much a "system" as any SMP one. You just do not like it that Athlon is sold as such. Well, TOO BAD!!!! Pete

To: Windsock who wrote (77584)	4/18/2002 10:17:21 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 275872

Windsock, No, your post is false. Microway's Dual Athlon MP GigaClusterTM Microway's Dual Athlon MP 2000+ Cluster Pricing with Server included: 8 Processors: $ 9,945 16 Processors: $18,535 32 Processors: $35,915 64 Processors: $71,670 Did you ever think about how clusters are formed? Well, surprise, their Intel one are formed the same way. microway.com Microway 1.7GHz Intel® Pentium® 4 Cluster Pricing with Server included: 8 Processors: $ 15,160 16 Processors: $ 29,520 32 Processors: $ 58,240 64 Processors: $115,680 Package Pricing (Including Server): P-III servers, lame ones 8 Processors: $ 8,625 16 Processors: $16,325 32 Processors: $31,725 64 Processors: $62,525 Looks like the AMD ones are cheaper and also perform a lot better. Bill