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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (50278)	4/19/2002 7:14:43 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 65232

That's a pretty balanced POV elvan. If you hadn't noticed, I have little tolerance for lying, manipulative, arrogant intimidators & antagonists If they also use threats & terrorist activities to push their agenda, IMVHO they lack any credibility with anything that leaves their lips. That gives me a bias against the Palestinian cause. Arafat has a well established multi-decade history of terrorist atrocities against Israel. His hatred of the Jews is more than obvious. He has no qualms about lies & deceit to manipulate the media & alter perceptions.......... regardless of the facts. The Prime Minister prior to Sharon failed to bring peace to the region. Negotiations (including probably the best offer ever made to the Palestinian people....... most likely the best offer they will ever get........) went nowhere & eventually broke down. Suicide bombings were met with olive branches & more attempted negotiations. Arafat always found a way to avoid an agreement........... and the terrorism continued to escalate. Sharon is most likely a right winger who prefers solving terrorist acts problems with military force. He is clearly a hawk. His military career establishes where his political agenda would lean. He was democratically elected. His people knew precisely who they were voting for. They are closer to the issues than 99.9% of those who report or opine on it. I'll give them the benefit of doubt given my disposition & my perception of the facts at this point in time. Ö¿Ö

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (50278)	4/19/2002 7:40:41 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 65232

Israel: The Economic Cost of War By Stanley Reed and Neal Sandler in Jerusalem Friday April 19, 8:05 am Eastern Time BusinessWeek Online biz.yahoo.com

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (50278)	4/20/2002 9:04:04 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

Former President Jimmy Carter has a great perspective in The New York Times... America Can Persuade Israel to Make a Just Peace By JIMMY CARTER The New York Times Editorial / Op-Ed April 21, 2002 nytimes.com <<...Ariel Sharon is a strong and forceful man and has never equivocated in his public declarations nor deviated from his ultimate purpose. His rejection of all peace agreements that included Israeli withdrawal from Arab lands, his invasion of Lebanon, his provocative visit to the Temple Mount, the destruction of villages and homes, the arrests of thousands of Palestinians and his open defiance of President George W. Bush's demand that he comply with international law have all been orchestrated to accomplish his ultimate goals: to establish Israeli settlements as widely as possible throughout occupied territories and to deny Palestinians a cohesive political existence...>> <<...There is adequate blame on the other side. Even when he was free and enjoying the full trappings of political power, Yasir Arafat never exerted control over Hamas and other radical Palestinians who reject the concept of a peaceful Israeli existence and adopt any means to accomplish their goal. Mr. Arafat's all-too-rare denunciations of violence have been spasmodic, often expressed only in English and likely insincere. He may well see the suicide attacks as one of the few ways to retaliate against his tormentors, to dramatize the suffering of his people, or as a means for him, vicariously, to be a martyr...>> <<...I understand the extreme political sensitivity in America of using persuasion on the Israelis, but it is important to remember that none of the actions toward peace would involve an encroachment on the sovereign territory of Israel. They all involve lands of the Egyptians, Lebanese and Palestinians, as recognized by international law...>> <<...The existing situation is tragic and likely to get worse. Normal diplomatic efforts have failed. It is time for the United States, as the sole recognized intermediary, to consider more forceful action for peace. The rest of the world will welcome this leadership...>> ______________ Jimmy Carter, the former president, is chairman of the Carter Center, which works worldwide to advance peace and human health.