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To: cfimx who wrote (48463)4/21/2002 7:45:16 AM
From: Lynn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Is this your opinion or can you provide us with some supporting evidence for the following statement of fact you seem to be making:

"suncom bought a lot of land and buidlings in 1999 - 2001. They overpaid for that real estate and now are trying to sell it."

Making a statement of overpaid has to be based on something concrete. I'd say knowledge of SUNW (or any company) trying to sell it's land/buildings would take a number of things, including seeing 'for sale' billboards, being a commercial real estate agent, or working in whatever division of SUNW deals with this.

Lynn



To: cfimx who wrote (48463)4/21/2002 11:35:56 AM
From: E_K_S  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Here is a list of Sunw owned property. From their 10K released 9/2001, the balance sheet shows the value at $2.7 Billion. There are about 3.2 Billion shares outstanding so the effective BV of their real estate is $0.84/share.
(http://www.edgar-online.com/bin/edgardoc/finSys_main.asp?dcn=0000912057-01-532905)
Also, the balance sheets records Goodwill at $2.04 Billion or about $0.63/share.

Their largest assets as of 9/2001 were there long term investments valued at $4.677 Billion or about $1.46/share. However, I am not sure if it reflects cost or market value as of this date.

You can use the Quick Link option (from the link above) to drill down to see list of Sunw owned properties. Below is the list.

ITEM 2. PROPERTIES
We conduct our worldwide operations using a combination of leased and owned facilities. While we believe we have sufficient facilities to conduct business during fiscal 2002, we will continue to lease, acquire and dispose of facilities throughout the world as necessary. We believe all of our owned and leased properties were substantially utilized (i.e., greater than 80%) as of June 30, 2001. Our owned properties consist of:
Location
Acres of
Land
Square
Footage of
Facility
Square Footage
Under
Construction

Bagshot, United Kingdom 3 30,000 n/a
Broomfield, Colorado 123 900,000 50,000
Burlington, Massachusetts 158 550,000 130,000
Farnborough, United Kingdom 40 240,000 90,000
Linlithgow, Scotland 24 230,000 210,000
Menlo Park, California 57 1,050,000 n/a
Newark, California 106 1,020,000 430,000
Palo Alto, California 12 260,000 n/a
Santa Clara, California 82 630,000 200,000

Total 605 4,910,000 1,110,000

As of June 30, 2001, we also leased approximately 8.5 million square feet, including 2.7 million square feet in 44 sales and service offices in the San Francisco Bay Area. The remaining leased space is located in approximately 305 sales and service offices around the world. We currently plan to sublease approximately 800,000 square feet of leased space and plan to terminate leases on approximately 200,000 square feet of leased space.
In addition to the above-noted "Square Footage Under Construction", we have approximately 1.9 million square feet of facilities planned for future construction. We continually evaluate our facility requirements in light of our business needs and will stage the foregoing future construction accordingly. In addition, we own approximately 82 acres of land in Newark, California and approximately 38 acres of land in Austin, Texas. ... Our manufacturing facilities are located in Linlithgow, Scotland, Beaverton, Oregon and Newark, California

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For a large High Tech company, IMO Sunw's balance sheet is very strong with regards to debt, fixed assets and cash flows. Also, Sunw continues to invest large amounts into R&D which is critical for developing new products. They have achieved all of this and have still maintained high product margins (Gross margins climbed to 42.1% in the March quarter from 36.6% in the December quarter).

EKS



To: cfimx who wrote (48463)4/21/2002 12:18:17 PM
From: Lynn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Let me repeat. What exactly are they 'trying to sell?'

"They overpaid for that real estate and now are trying to sell it."

Eric provided information on SUNW's real estate holdings. Which holdings are they trying to sell.

You made a statement of fact. Now substantiate your statement. Also, do you know how much SUNW originally paid and what it is now worth? If so, be specific in your reply, don't just provide a generalization. Use Eric's posting as a model.