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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (26826)4/24/2002 1:14:54 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
if the society does not disseminate discoveries, it doesn't matter how many men of genius you have

The History of the discovery and dissemination of ideas is a "Hobbyhorse" of mine. The need for intellectual freedom in a society in order to allow ideas to be disseminated is now well documented. The history of Galilio, Kepler, et al, and especially Newton, shows the correlation between freedom and human progress.

Even in the most free societies, we still, as an institution, do what we can to stop and not give credit for ideas. Nikola Tesla, an Hungarian electrical engineer, is a prime example. He invented and holds the patents on the AC motor, generator, and transmission system. He also invented the florescent light and Radio. The man is responsible for 98% of the electricity used in the world today, but he has been written out of the history books. The Electric companies that use his system are named after Edison.

The list of this type of lack of credit for innovation goes on and on. William Morton, a dentist, for the use of ether for anesthesia,and Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis, a Hungarian Physician, who discovered the cause and cure of childbirth fever, which was the lack of antiseptic methods in Hospitals, are two good examples. Lister was able to "sell" this idea later.

IMO, freedom in a society only way we can get the discovery and propagation of new ideas, which allows the growth of mankind.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (26826)4/24/2002 1:20:32 PM
From: epsteinbd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
It is painful that the most notorious invention of the Palestnians is the leather belt.
We have seen the CNN pictures of the flying arrowheads of those belts, once a Pal factory was overtaken.
Flat steel, 2 mm thick(12 th of an inch), bout 4 cm long, delta shaped assymetrical "flat wings" with one ,or two long sides razor bladed.
Just on those state of the art, highly efficient flying knives, the Pals can get 4 claims granted, one to include the way they are stored in the vest, probably overlaping like when one watches a connifer forest on a mountain, for volume convenience and best standard departure and cruising, including angle of best concentration probably for the longest cruising distance at three feet.
Sorry to be too graphic, but this thing is a bit maddening.

The only thing is that they'd have to write a patent, a bit fastidious.
But why should they hurry to write ? Who is insane enough to steal that intellectual property?

Unfortunately, it is a Palestinian invention.
Sometimes history is really cruel...

Mr. Arafat could have finished the conflict in 78, in a double deal with Sadate, a triple Nobel shot, and all the kids to the beaches by safe buses since, bikini allowed ten years later, because of possible visual overdose clash of civilization if freedom is granted too soon; and nobody would have cried over the few appartements blocks in Jerusalem, a few thousand right of return, or who cleans the holy places where the Pseudo Chosen Ones kiss a wall and the Pseudo Forgotten Ones kiss a floor.