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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14054)	4/24/2002 7:08:03 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

...who could be returned to the country of their parents, grandparents... What if each grandparent came from a different country? How do you choose where to send them, Mr. God? What if none of the four will take them? ... or a country that is willing to have them Anywhere in the world as long as long as it isn't Palestine, huh? But wait - it has to be somewhere where all the people want to accept them or you would just have another Palestine situation, right. And then what if nowhere will take them? Which was the situation back in the '30's. Your arrogance is surpassed only by your hypocrisy.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14054)	4/25/2002 3:46:47 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Re: The Isra-Elis you refer to are subjects of a colony and are children of refugees who could be returned to the country of their parents, grandparents or a country that is willing to have them. Len, I'm afraid Goldsnow has successfully drawn you to a slippery standpoint, that is, the open-end assumption inducing the termination of Israel... and the consequent deportation of all Israelis back to their forefathers' countries. At that point of the discussion, Zionists eager to cast themselves as "victimized, homeless innocents" have won the "heart game" as world opinion will never call for the scrapping of Israel. Besides, Arab countries too don't want the elimination of the Jewish state, hence their unanimous rally around the Saudi proposal. The name of the ME game is "Conquest vs Contract". The Judeofascists don't want Israel to be the outcome of a "win-win" contract of sorts between Israelis and Arabs, they don't want to be granted Israel as a gift by the Arabs --like oil concessions granted to US companies.... Zionists want Israel to be the outcome of a never-ending conquest forced upon hostile barbarians. They can't accept peace proposals by Arab countries because it's not up to "barbarians" to offer anything to "Western Crusaders". The Zionists' worldview boils down to a master-slave relationship wherein the Master imposes his exigencies upon the slave... Just like Hitler and the Nazis couldn't see Germany on a par with barbaric Slavs: Hitler didn't want Danzig offered to him by generous Poles --Poland had to be conquered; Hitler didn't want the Sudeten offered self-determination by Czechoslovakia --the latter had to be crushed and dismantled; Hitler didn't want Austria freely joining the German Reich --Austria had to be annexed perforce; etc, etc. Gus