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To: Ron Dior who wrote (55898)	4/24/2002 4:05:49 PM
From: Softechie	Respond to of 99280

Ron, give it a rest...you know you've beaten...

To: Ron Dior who wrote (55898)	4/24/2002 4:16:14 PM
From: Jeff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

ron....what happened to all the good news last year in the spring at nasdaq 2300..... it was lies.. what happened to all the good news in the fall with better guidance by this summer... it was all lies.... its not coming....and thats why this market " keeps going down".... i don't see how you can argue that argument while the " nasdaq keeps dropping".... people who are listening to all this crap these "experts" are throwing at them are losing their butts still....and its going to get worst..... T/A is the only thing that can save you.......its that simple.... only people who have no clue about T/A and don't want to take the time to learn it are the ones that say T/A is useless...... i told you in a post about that big H&S pattern on MSFT..... ron..believe anything you want....but that says MSFT is toast....like it or not.... good luck to you....

To: Ron Dior who wrote (55898)	4/24/2002 4:44:39 PM
From: Jeff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

ron...let me add this also.... knowing that when you see crap stocks running up hard is a sign of market tops... being able to see the "pierce and sucker" play on a chart and knowing what happens next.... knowing that there is a "secret" signal on the chart involving the stochastics.... knowing that you can buy cheap stocks in december for next to nothing because of tax selling and can sell them much higher just a few weeks later...... knowing you have to think the opposite of what the experts are telling you... its called market savvy....and combined with T/A ....you get an edge in this market..... and you need an edge to win...... folks just can't imagine all the little subtle signs that are out in the market each day.....they make all the difference.. folks who believe all the crap in press releases... analyists comments...earnings reports....t.v...magazines... are all sheep ready to be sheered..... thats how big money...gets your money....the transfer of wealth.... i won't let that happen....but thats just the way i am....

To: Ron Dior who wrote (55898)	4/24/2002 5:31:46 PM
From: edboyl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 99280

Accurate according to which time frame? If one was using a timeframe of one week maybe you are correct, but what about 6 months Jeff, you can't win. Ron never makes a bad call. It's just a question of time in his parallel universe until his call is correct. Making calls and sticking with them in light of negative returns without adequate stops is lunacy

To: Ron Dior who wrote (55898)	4/24/2002 11:03:54 PM
From: augieboo	Respond to of 99280

Ron: I can appreciate the hard work you put into your technical analysis but am sorry to say you might as well throw chicken bones onto the ground and dance around them. I don't pretend to be any expert on either investing or trading, but this sentence just made me cringe when I read it, because it's something I wrote (in various forms) many, many times while my portfolio was withering away. Nobody is saying that TA will let you tell the future, or that anyone should use it exclusively. Take a look at the stocks Zeev mentions as long-term buys -- BA, IGT, PII, WDFC, MRK, CAH, TYC, AW, COO, AGM, SKX, MAXF, POOL -- and I think you'll find that they are all fundamentally sound companies, with good looking balance sheets, realistic business plans, etc. But there is no point in buying the world's greatest companies if they lose a third, or half, or two-thirds of their value shortly after you buy them. To make what would otherwise turn into an extremely long post shorter, all I'm suggesting is that you choose your investments based on their fundamentals, but consider incorporating just a few basic bits of TA to help you choose when to buy, or, more importantly, when NOT to buy. If I had done just that much two years ago, I would have saved myself an incredible amount of heartache, (not to mention more than $100,000). Good luck. augie