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To: calgal who wrote (15243)	4/25/2002 8:47:32 AM
From: hdl	Respond to of 27722

pakistan since 9/11 has arguably been more helpful to u s than any other muslim country. but, u s hasn't had pakistan take strong, effective steps against terrorists in kashmir. people in india have killed 15 muslims for each hindu the muslims killed in a fire. indian government has restrained their people. but, egypt, jordan, saudis have done a great deal to incite terror- and very little to oppose it. u s and media have commended arabs for declaration in lebanon which included support for suicide bombers and continuation of same

To: calgal who wrote (15243)	4/25/2002 9:16:29 AM
From: skinowski	Respond to of 27722

On a related subject... Safire cannot quote what he heard "of the record" from the Big Boys, so he has their underlings tell their stories... April 25, 2002 The Inside Skinny By WILLIAM SAFIRE WASHINGTON — Where do thumbsuckers get our inside dope? And how do we pass along evidence of unseen policy struggles without burning sources? At one of the last intimate dinners given in the Georgetown salon of Katharine Graham — a social (which means off the record) gathering of 10 last May — I was given the nod by the journalist-hostess to shoot questions at two Bush cabinet members about their weltanschauung. We were all struck, first, by the genuine cordiality between the two men whose seats at the cabinet table are immediately to the right and left of the president. Unlike past bureaucratic rivals (Kissinger-Rogers, Brzezinski-Vance, Shultz-Weinberger), they admire and enjoy each other. At the same time, it quickly became clear how different were their worldviews. They came at each issue from almost opposite directions (with the national security adviser later famed as Yo-Yo Ma's accompanist providing the bridges). Were I to quote a single word from that dinner, a lightning bolt from Kay would lay me low. But there is another way to illustrate the inner thinking of an administration: to read and report on the widely ignored speeches of its chief policy underlings. Like Poe's "Purloined Letter," these wonky documents are in plain sight — the best hiding place of all — and by not being stamped "top secret" are overlooked by Bushologists. Richard Haass, 50, who directs the State Department's policy planning staff, is Colin Powell's long-range thinker. In a speech this week to the Foreign Policy Association, he spilled the Powell weltanschauung for "what my boss . . . likes to call `the post-post-cold-war world.' " (Note: whenever an aide quotes a boss's phrase — it was the aide's phrase.) "A doctrine offers strategic clarity," says Haass. He posits a "doctrine of integration" to fuse "other countries and organizations into arrangements that will sustain a world consistent with U.S. interests and values. . . . We can move from a balance of power to a pooling of power." Powell's man sees this policy of integration into coalitions as a "force multiplier," a product of "hard-headed multilateralism" (presumably not the same as Madeleine Albright's "assertive multilateralism"). "Leadership thus requires genuine consultation. . . . we should not be shackled by the memories of past animosities." In this "era of new partnerships" we must "integrate Russia, China, India, the Arab world, African countries and others." That coalitionitis drives hard-liners at Defense up Pentagon walls. However, supporters of Israel can take heart in his convoluted "Countries affected by states that abet, support, or harbor international terrorists, or are incapable of controlling terrorists operating from their territory, have the right to take action to protect their citizens." Douglas Feith, 49, is under secretary of defense for policy. In a speech this week, the Pentagon's wonderwonk freely recalled past animosities: Palestinian leaders "time and again made disastrous strategic choices — from siding with the Nazis in World War II to siding with the Soviet Union during the cold war, to siding with Saddam Hussein in the gulf war. The question now is: What side are they on in the current global war against terrorism?" Donald Rumsfeld's man decried intellectual passivity: "We'll continue to confront terrorism on the military battlefield, but . . . winning the war requires us to help change the way people think. Worldwide moral battles can be fought and won. For example, no decent person . . . supports or excuses slave trading, piracy or genocide. No decent person should support or excuse terrorism either." The difference in emphasis and style of these two upper-level policy makers reflects the debate that enlivens and sometimes jerks around Bush foreign policy. Their views sometimes overlap: State's Haass likes to quote Rumsfeld's "revolving coalitions" that operate like pickup sandlot teams, while Defense's Feith dutifully reminds Israel of compromises and "hard choices" ahead. But their mindsets, and that of their bosses, are miles apart. Read the speeches. Haass's text is on www.state.gov/s/p/ and Feith's is on www.defenselink.mil/news/ Apr2002/d20020421feith.pdf. While you're at it, try Senator John McCain's "There'll always be an Israel" speech (phrase based on a 1939 song) on mccain.senate.gov. Get your own inside skinny. Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company \| Privacy Information

To: calgal who wrote (15243)	4/25/2002 11:45:02 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 27722

Hamas Appeals to Young Teen-Agers Not to Attack Jewish Settlements By Ibrahim Barzak Associated Press Writer Published: Apr 25, 2002 GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) - The three Palestinian boys were barely in their teens but - apparently inspired by suicide "martyrs" - they decided to try to infiltrate a Jewish settlement. They didn't get far before they were shot and killed by Israeli soldiers. The deaths this week left Palestinians grieving - and prompted the Islamic militant group Hamas to take the unusual step of urging children not to try to imitate its attacks on Israelis. "He was just a boy," Adel Hamdona said of his son, Anwar, one of boys slain creeping into the settlement. "We never thought that he would do anything like that." Anwar Hamdona and Yousef Zakout, both 14, and Ismail Abu Nada, 13, tried Tuesday night to slip into the Jewish settlement of Netzarim in central Gaza when they were seen by soldiers and shot. Adel Hamdona, 42, said his son was not part of any political movement but he was distressed by TV footage of Palestinian casualties in fighting with Israel and spoke approvingly of Palestinian suicide attacks. Militants killed in operations against Israel are often lionized as heroes - their faces and names lauded in posters and grafitti on Gaza walls. At the same time, Palestinian parents often say they try - in vain - to prevent their young children from joining potentially deadly protests around Israeli military posts. On Wednesday, hundreds of emotional mourners, marched through the streets of Gaza City, some firing automatic weapons into the air. Green flags of Hamas covered the bodies. But Hamas insisted young children should not try such attacks. The group issued a statement urging youngsters to "remember that their lives are precious and should not be sacrificed." "We have called on the teachers and religious leaders to spread the message of restraint among young boys," said a statement, signed by Hamas spokesman Ismail Hanyea. "There are too many young lives lost at the fences of Jewish settlements." Hamas has claimed responsibility for many of the dozens of suicide bombing attacks carried out in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza Strip during nearly 19 months of Palestinian-Israeli violence. Most of the bombers were men in their early 20s. There have been almost nightly attempts by Palestinians to infiltrate Jewish settlements in Gaza over the past two weeks. On March 29, a Palestinian entered Netzarim and stabbed two Israelis to death. During Israel's large-scale military operation in the West Bank, which began March 29 after a series of Palestinian suicide bombing attacks, Gaza has been relatively calm. ap.tbo.com

To: calgal who wrote (15243)	4/25/2002 12:11:56 PM
From: Tadsamillionaire	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27722

Westi, now may be the time to pull the plug on the Saudi families and divide the spoils... wouldn't it be amazing if Bush told the crown Prince to take all his oil and shove it. Walked out into the T.V Camera's and introduced a long line of Electric Cars (all American made}and Hydrogen fuel cells,capable of fueling all the U.S energy needs with out a drop of Oil from the mideast!... I know , I know, and superman can leap tall buildings. I can dream can't I?