To: Richnorth who wrote (84741 ) 4/25/2002 7:44:52 PM From: d:oug Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116955 Yes, all you say is quite on-target except that sometimes, as many of us sadly know, the mob will rule when a few who know how to lead a mob around by the nose pulls them into doing what is counter to their health & safety. Based on the personal attacks i get for my on-topic posts via GATA, that are orchestrated by just a few based on their inability to accept that others not only have a better handle on events, but that they are actually doing something that makes a difference, rather than that activity i posted where certain folks here that think that they are making a difference are only being lead around by their noses by the forces they are fighting. So as GATA accomplishes all that is good for gold, these few counter GATA thinking that they are helping gold, while being unaware that they are being lead by the nose of anti-gold forces. Nothing new here, really, just a continuation of the battles between Good & Evil where Evil has always had the upper hand for the simply reason that the mob, 99% of folks, allow themselves to follow the path most easy and the path with the most false promises a.k.a. stuff or glory that requires or demands that you not do any understanding, and ofcourse, no investigation to validity. No problem for me as i will modify my GATA additions to this thread so that i do not lose my Si membership. Since very few others support the GATA effort on this thread, and very few speak up like you and a number i can count on my one hand to give me public support, i have no problem letting the mob dictate the rules for this thread, to their lost. The stage is quite well set for ACT II as the curtain for that which is called gold manipulation is falling and once the curtain is raises other curtains will also be raised showing that GATA is just one important room of a full house of cards called United States. (don't know but most likely a repeat t.v. program) tonight History Channel - Mystery of the Reichsbank Gold (just more info on America's ignorance a.k.a. 99% of it people) Subj: NIGHTLINE: In The National Interest TONIGHT'S SUBJECT: We went to war in Afghanistan to fight terrorism. But there may be an added benefit. Our success there may make a long-time dream of the this country, and the oil companies, come true. Because Central Asia has oil. Lots of it. Wars have been fought in and over Afghanistan and Central Asia for centuries. Looking at the region, sometimes it's hard to imagine why thousands of lives have been lost in fighting over pretty desolate terrain. As in virtually all real estate issues, it comes down to location, location, location. There is oil in Central Asia, a lot of it in the former republics of the Soviet Union, those countries sometimes referred to as the "-stans." You know, all those countries that end in "-stan." Well you may not be able to find them on a map, and probably can't spell them, but they represent the possibility of breaking our dependence on the Persian Gulf for oil. The problem is getting it out of there. The U.S. does not want any oil pipelines to go out through Russia, for obvious reasons. The same goes for Iran. But one possibility has always been through Afghanistan. Now the oil companies have been working on this for a long time. Condaleeza Rice, now the National Security Advisor, used to be on the board of Chevron. They even named a tanker after her. The man who is now President Bush's special envoy for Afghanistan is a former Pentagon official who was a consultant to UNOCAL on their efforts to build a pipeline through Afghanistan. He was involved when a high-level delegation of Taliban was brought to Houston. They were shown around, taken to the Houston zoo, even given money for a shopping trip, all to try to win their help. Vice-President Cheney was an advisor to one of the new governments in the region, the same government that Condaleeza Rice's Chevron was negotiating with. Now, in the wake of the war in Afghanistan, the U.S. has built bases there, and also in some of the surrounding countries, something that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago. What does all this mean? It means that the U.S. may finally be in a position to provide security for a pipeline and the oil fields. And there is enough oil there to offset any halt in production by Iraq, for example. But this also means that we are now working with our new allies in the region, some of which are less than paragons of democracy, to say the least. But sometimes governments will look the other way on things like that when their national interests are at stake. And that is why we are calling this two-part series "In the National Interest." Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld is off to the region today, to tour some of those new bases. Tonight's broadcast is the first of two, the second will run tomorrow night, laying out this whole situation. Is this why we went to war over there? No. But the U.S. certainly seems positioned to take advantage of the new realities. I hope you'll join us. Thursday, April 25, 2002 Leroy Sievers and the Nightline Staff Nightline Offices Washington, D.C.