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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (250929)4/25/2002 2:31:14 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
NO, Christians simply admit that JESUS is the Rock and it is HIS church..not Peter's. OF COURSE Peter was a leader(elder, servant..etc) in the sense of the word. So was Paul, so was John, so was James, etc.

v. 18 on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

IT..IT...IT... it is HIS church.

19. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
20. Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.


context..context...see as soon as He said I will give you...He THEN warned His discipleS..S...S..S not to tell..they were all given a measure of the Holy Spirit.

Peter was not only one there.

or this:

Was Peter the first pope? The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the pope is the supreme head of the church on earth, that the Apostle Peter was the first pope, and that all popes are direct successors of Peter.

Dr. Joseph Zacchello, who trained for the Roman Catholic priesthood in Italy and served as a priest in New York, carefully pointed out what the Bible teaches concerning the Apostle Peter.

At the Council of Jerusalem Peter took part in the conversations, but the Apostle James not Peter presided and pronounced the Council’s decision: “And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, ‘Men, brethren, hear me.... For which cause I judge...’” (Ac. 15:13, 19). Peter calls himself an elder and not a pope: “Now I have something to tell your elders: I am an elder myself” (1 Pet. 5:1 JB). The other apostles did not recognize Peter as their chief; in fact, they sent him to preach in Samaria (not the other way around): “Now when the apostles who were in Jerusalem had heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John” (Ac. 8:14).

Saint Paul did not believe Peter was chief; in fact:

(a) Paul mentioned Peter more than once but he never mentioned him with any special title of honor, such as vicar or pope, or gave any indication that he held him above any of the other apostles.

(b) Paul taught that those who attached themselves to Peter (or to any other apostle or person) as a distinct group were guilty of schism, because Christ is the head (1 Cor. 1:12-13; 3:22).

(c) Paul did not mention the papacy when referring to the officers of the church (1 Cor. 12:28, Eph. 4:11).

(d) Paul as an apostle claimed authority over the Roman church itself (Rom. 1:5-6; 16:17).

(e) Paul was “behind the very chiefest apostle in nothing” (2 Cor. 12:11-12).

(f) Paul expressly denied that Peter was the pope and further maintained that whatever Peter was to the Jews, he, Paul, was to the Gentiles. This certainly is incompatible with any idea of a pope in Paul’s day (Gal. 2:7,8).

(g) Paul rebuked Peter without any mention of Peter’s supremacy (Gal. 2:11). [18]

If Peter was chief, it was the duty of Paul and of the apostles to recognize him as such, respect him as chief and teach in their writings that he was the chief; but neither the gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, the epistles nor the Revelation ever mention it. [19]

By: Brian Schwertley



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (250929)4/25/2002 5:49:21 PM
From: rich4eagle  Respond to of 769670
 
Interesting view, I wonder if other informed views will show up as well