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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (27030)	4/25/2002 7:04:00 PM
From: Elsewhere	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Ahh... it's so easy to claim the answer to oil reliance is hydrogen...> While the hydrogen infrastructure is created radically new Diesel engines might be employed. Just before quitting as Volkswagen CEO Ferdinand Piëch recently demonstrated a concept car driving from Wolfsburg to Hamburg. It runs 312 miles with one gallon (0.9 l/100 km). Piëchs letzte Dienstfahrt Der scheidende VW-Chef stellt bislang streng geheimen Prototyp des Ein-Liter-Autos vor Die Welt, 16.04.2002 welt.de

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (27030)	4/25/2002 7:07:08 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 281500

I'm all for replacing fossil fuels with hydrogen. Yeah, and you know when we will do it. When it is profitable to switch from fossil fuels. We won't do that until we get so low on them that it is cheaper to switch. As you mention, we could do a lot with Nuclear but the same people who hate oil, gas, and coal, hate Nuclear. Socialism is on the ashcan of history, but there are still socialists marching and chanting slogans based on faith in the failed false premises of that movement. Every major premise of the "Environmental" movement has now been shown to be false. But the "environmentalists" are still reciting the litany, and chanting the slogans, of their failed faith.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (27030)	4/25/2002 8:24:07 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 281500

If hydrogen is made a PRIORITY we spend the billions currently ear-marked for polluting energy to that and work on it for 10 years hard. Government has to be strong behind it. But if you make it they will come. Of course the infrastructure isn't there yet, we're stuck with soemday-obsolete gasoline and OPEC until we make the DECISION to change over. The GOP should get behind it too. The whole world ex OPEC should. It's really the only long-term answer. Destroying more wilderness isn't because that damage is permanent.