To: Poet who wrote (10977 ) 4/26/2002 3:02:23 PM From: craig crawford Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21057 >> Hmmm, I guess this would include thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of married heterosexual couples. What should we do to all these perverts? << i'm talking about sodomy as was defined by jefferson, which means sex with someone of the same gender. Sect. XIV. Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy* with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least. * Paragraph 25. H. 8. C. 6. Buggery is twofold. 1. With mankind, 2. With beasts. Buggery is the Genus, of which Sodomy and Bestiality, are the species. 12. Co. 37. Says, "note that Sodomy is with mankind." But Finch's L. B. 3. c. 24. "Sodomiary is a carnal copulation against nature, to wit, of man or woman in the same sex, or of either of them with beasts." 12. Co. 36. Says, "it appears by the ancient authorities of the law that this was felony." Yet the 25. H. 8. Declares it felony, as if supposed not the be so.... B. Fleta, L. i. c. 37. says, "pecorantes et Sodomitae in terra vivi confodiantur." The Mirror makes it treason. Bestiality can never make any progress; it cannot therefore be injurious to society in any great degree, which is the true measure of criminality in foro civili, and will ever be properly and severely punished, by universal derision. It may, therefore, be omitted. It was anciently punished with death, as it has been latterly. Ll. Aelfrid. 31. and 25. H. 8. c. 6. see Beccaria. Paragraph 31. Montesq. Peterson, Merrill D. "Crimes and Punishments" Thomas Jefferson: Writings Public Papers (Literary Classics of the United States, Inc. 1984) pp. 355, 356. >> And how about those homophobic fascists who want to trample over the constitutional provision of privacy? << you mean like the privacy of the boy scouts to reject homosexual leaders? gee, isn't marriage a public institution? gee, aren't the armed forces a public function of government? i guess when homosexuals want to get a marriage license or join the military it ceases to become an issue of privacy now doesn't it? when homosexuals seek special protections under the law (i.e hate crimes legislation), i guess that's not a private matter anymore now is it? i suppose when homosexuals seek to adopt children that becomes a public concern as well. if queers want to sodomize and infect each other in the privacy of their own home so be it. just don't ask me to respect it, approve of it, or subsidize any consequences relating to it. >> By the way, craig, I see from your profile that you eat even eggs a day. How long does it take to pray for all the little chicken souls you're slurping down each morning? << an egg is not a chicken, it merely holds the potential to be a chicken. but just so we're clear, i don't mind eating a full-fledged chicken either.