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To: TimF who wrote (146559)	4/26/2002 6:01:52 PM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579729

Tim it was not a question of mili-seconds but rather that we do not know. We do not know at what point during pregnancy it become human. BTW your definition of humans as homo sapiens may be interpreted that it is not a human life until very late stages in pregnancy - you sound pro-choice :-)) -Albert

To: TimF who wrote (146559)	4/28/2002 4:15:14 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579729

<Conception is a process. It doesn't take long but it isn't a point. I would say before conception it is not human, after conception it is. I probably can't give you a specific milli-second. Ahhhh, but there's the rub! Anti-abortionists contend we must know that point right down to the millisecond. For both religious and scientific purposes, I would contend that there are two key points.......either the beginning of brain activity near the end of the first trimester, or the moment the fetus leaves the womb and takes its first breath of air. From a scientific point, I think either would do because they both demonstrate a major example of humanness/mammalian characteristics......brain activity indicating some sort of sentience; and breathing through the lungs instead of a placenta. As for the religious aspects, the soul is considered our essence whose purpose is to learn and grow while on this plane. If that's the case, what could it possibly learn when the creature its about to occupy does not have the brain function with which to use to learn? However, even that entry point does not make a lot of sense, since what can a soul learn for 6 months in a watery tomb where the most significant activity is the kicking of its foot. Therefore, the most logical entry would be at the time of first breath after leaving the womb. ted