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To: Bilow who wrote (42488)	4/29/2002 4:58:04 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Hi all; A fascinating article on anti-semitism in France. The article says that it is the left wing in France that is anti-semitic. The right is more anti-arab: ... One innocent explanation would be that French society has suited up to do battle with the anti-Semitism of 70 years ago, and simply doesn't recognize any other kind. The new anti-Semites are not German-speaking militarists--who were conquered. They are not Catholic traditionalists--whose anti-Semitism rested on doctrines no longer asserted by Catholicism, which, in any case, is a religion the French no longer practice. As such, the French lack the imagination to see that the new anti-Semites--who are primarily radical Muslims--are anti-Semites at all. "Your father's Nazism is dead," says the political scientist Alexandre Del Valle. "It exists in the heads of three or four alcoholic skinheads." In other words, the new anti-Semitism is not coming from the right. "The danger that looms over the Jewish community is not the danger that threatened us before," says Gilles William Goldnadel, author of an acute study of recent anti-Semitism, The New Breviary of Hatred. Goldnadel told a crowd at a B'nai B'rith Center in Paris's sixth arrondissement a few nights before the election, "Worry about the right has turned out to be a decoy--in the military sense--to distract us from the real danger. French anti-racists have been parsing the tiniest dictum of Le Pen, while Jewish blood has been spilled by the left in Athens, Istanbul, Rome, Vienna, and Paris." (Particularly by Palestinian terrorists.) There are indications that the government, too, is looking at the wrong target. By the turn of this year, 60 people had been questioned for the hundreds of acts of intimidation. "Only 5 were subject to legal proceedings, being far Right," according to a report prepared by Shimon Samuels of the Wiesenthal Center. "As if the others were not really anti-Semitic and their exactions not just as serious." ... weeklystandard.com -- Carl P.S. From Nadine Carroll on the FADG thread: #reply-17395537

To: Bilow who wrote (42488)	4/29/2002 11:09:34 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

<but most nations already have the equivalent of "transit camps" for illegal aliens. The US certainly does> I don't think so, you are out of sync here totally. His policy is that legal immigrants would be made illegal by refusal of extension of visas and than they will be transferred to transit camps en-masse, this is not what US does, it is not the same thing and this is quick over-simplification of a very complex extreme -right debate led by LePen that is going on in Europe. I don’t think US or any group in US does not believe in putting 'green card holders' in a camp and send them over. Making people illegal by design and putting them in camps is what I am referring too. USA does not do such things, illegal immigrants are security risk on that count US after 11th of Sept has played a significantly tougher role, and don't forget that most of the guys who did this 11th Sept were illegal overstaying individuals, I can understand the problem. <In this sense Le Pen, who will lose the election in the greatest landslide in French history, isn't much of a fascist> Even if all the countries violate basic rights two wrongs does not add up to one right, if the countries all over the world have such camps that does not justify this new flare up in a country where democracy and liberty are greatest of virtues. It is not about landslide Carl, it is about 20% of population thinking so absurdly, educated people should think big and should have a far bigger vision, education makes us so much better and bigger creation, it is about the limited myopic vision that I am concerned with is education and reawakening leading us to anarchy that is my concern. Land of 'Hugo' deserves better than this. Will you consider races unequal, in my opinion any one who considers other human as unequal is a fascist, and Le Pen qualifies hands down. I am not going to mince my words on that. <It's just that I don't think it's useful to blow the current situation out of proportion. While the Palestinian / Israeli fracas is on the rise, overall the status of the world is more peaceful now than it was at pretty much any time prior.> World, as I have always highlighted is a far better place from what it was, but it is better because ‘we’ the people of the world today stand up and stop genocides, we don’t keep quite, we do count human heads and we don’t turn our faces away like last time when Jews were disappearing in Europe in millions, neither the Church nor collaborationists cared to see where on earth these people are being taken. When this time 'ethnic cleansing' became a threat the world and the US acted forcefully although France was towing a different line, Montenegro and Serbs of Belgrade was punished for Sarajevo, Kosovo and Albanians were saved from mass slaughter, Sebrenica murder of 7000 people led to resignation of entire Dutch government last week, it is important that when we toast to victory we should not forget that it is 'our' collective conscience and vigilance due to which the world has become a better place it is not an accident. To highlight dangers that threaten our recovery is our utmost duty as a member of this great human society.