To: Richnorth who wrote (84896 ) 4/29/2002 7:26:27 PM From: d:oug Respond to of 116815 Richnorth, Please let me echo your thoughts towards what is knowned as the W-->M Upside Down Man :o) Imagine if i wrote this post with intentions to address what i understand as his convoluted thoughts & ideas. For sure i have tried, as have you and others both pro and con to him, with results being "no change" by him. This fact may lead one to suggest that it matters not to a degree that what we write is not read for content, but only the context, for this person, as you have noted many times that he only searches our posts and replies only to see if we have agreed to let him control out minds, and if not, then he wants us to obtain help from a source that he has at the ready to change our thoughts such that we will always agree & obey his, no questions asked. (or) He has one of those self help books you can buy for things like "Taxes for Dummies" or "Computer Software for Dummies" with the one he is using is called "Taunting to Win, for Dummies" to be used when one has no path to travel for understanding, but to lead all others off the path of knowledge so that they will fall into the gutter and see his hand out to us to help us onto another path called TruTh of an Upside Down Man. (also) That 1929 time period discussed today by you and big dak, that has DAK seemly more up to speed on the facts may or not be accurate if one views that past GPM poster called reeses peanut butter cups or something now after one of those R rated pc games for teenagers needing an escape from reality, that he had access to a zillion sources, leading to 5 zillion conclusions, all true & false & off to degrees of a zillion :o) So might i suggest that rather than an accurate history account, seek a place where you might place some trust, and there obtain an interpretation or two that can be a foundation. For myself i found a place to obtain such stuff, and found a person who gives his detailed insight into what he collects as facts of history, with resultant impact. Oops, yes i cannot tell you since its a pay to view web site, but hints are easy as Bill Murphy of GATA is owner of "cafe" and an article of that 1929+ period was discussed in detail :o) (or) From: davemarkun Monday, Apr 29, 2002 Richnorth: ... [you don't] run and hide like Doug[ak]... and the other reactionaries on this thread. At least you stand up and make a fool out of yourself.LOL.dsm [end.] (or) see, no matter that i jump out of the shadow like a man wearing an open raincoat on a sunny day and expose to him my stuff, he says i hide :o)