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To: richard surckla who wrote (146723)4/30/2002 11:25:29 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571928
 
Well I guess that settles it. It is now evident that the Jews perpetrated a great massacre against the old men, women and children of Jenin. We now know that the count of bodies of these poor people is very large but we shall never know the exact number... we can only speculate. How many will be killed the next time is anybody's guess.

There is no evidence that that's true. Sharon is an aggressive, independent and stubborn leader, but he is no Hitler. And because of his nature, probably he should not be the PM of Israel at this time if for no other reason then his recalcitrant behavior permits people to make claims similar to one you just posted.

You clearly do not know Israelis. If you did, you would know they are incapable of a such a massacre. In fact, American soldiers would be more likely to commit a massacre than Israelis, and I don't American soldiers are very likely at all. I am just sorry that Sharon's behavior fuels such gossip.

ted



To: richard surckla who wrote (146723)4/30/2002 11:43:59 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571928
 
U.N. Chief May Disband Jenin Probe

By GERALD NADLER
.c The Associated Press

UNITED NATIONS (April 30) - Facing strong Israeli objections, Secretary-General Kofi Annan said Tuesday he is ''inclined to disband'' a U.N. fact-finding team that was to look into Israel's military assault on the Jenin refugee camp.

Israel's security Cabinet decided Tuesday not to cooperate with a U.N. inquiry until six Israeli demands had been met regarding the mandate and composition of the team. The team's departure from Geneva has been delayed since Saturday by Israeli objections.

''Given the team's inability to proceed and the difficulties we have had, I was inclined to disband it,'' Annan said late Tuesday.

But he said he would wait for reaction from the powerful U.N. Security Council, which will meet late Wednesday, before he formally calls the team back from Geneva.

After two days of meetings last week between U.N. and Israeli officials, Annan said he wrote a letter to Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres in ''which I felt I clarified the issues and dealt with their concerns, but evidently that was not the case.

Annan said said he chose the three-member team with the view that it was important to find out what happened in Jenin.

The Palestinians accuse the Israeli army of a massacre of civilians during eight days of fighting that left part of the Jenin camp in rubble. Israel says its army fought intense gunbattles with Palestinian gunmen, who were the main victims, stressing that 26 suicide bombers came from Jenin.

''There are lots of accusations, lots of rumors,'' Annan said. ''We don't know what is true and what is not. And I really felt that it was in everyone's interest that we clarify this issue as quickly as possible.''

Annan's statement came after at the end of a day of strong suggestions that the mission is all but over.

Undersecretary-General Kieran Prendergast said earlier that ''a thorough, credible and balanced report on recent events in Jenin refugee camp would not be possible without the cooperation of the government of Israel.''

The Security Council met late Tuesday to consider the dispute, but took no action.

''We feel that the secretary-general, the international community, has been affronted by Israel,'' Ireland's U.N. Ambassador Richard Ryan said.

The United States put forward the resolution adopted by the Security Council welcoming the dispatch of a U.N. team.

U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte said the United States will ''fully respect'' Annan's decision. U.S. officials said the Bush administration would still like to see a fact-finding mission.

Arab nations circulated a new draft resolution late Tuesday that demands Israel immediately receive the fact-finding team.

The draft resolution declares that the situation in the region constitutes ''a threat to international peace and security'' and would authorize the council to act under Chapter VII of the U.N. Charter, which allows the use of military force.

A resolution in this form would almost certainly be vetoed by the United States, Israel's closest ally.

''This is a shock for the Palestinian people and for every human being who believes in human rights,'' Ahmed Abdel Rahman, secretary of the Palestinian Cabinet, said of the U.N. developments. ''What happened in Jenin was a crime during the day in front of the eyes of the whole world.''

But Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres said ''Israel feels that there was an attempt to put a blood libel against her, saying that we have killed 3,000 civilians in Jenin, when the fact is that all the civilians that were killed there - and I regret it - are seven persons.''

''Forty-five armed Palestinians lost their lives, 26 Israeli soldiers lost their lives, but when it came to civilians, we are talking about seven persons not about 3,000,'' he said in an interview on MSNBC's ''Hardball With Chris Matthews.''

Israel initially agreed on April 19 to the formation of the fact-finding team, when Peres stressed the country had ''nothing to hide.'' But it then raised questions over the composition of the team, its scope of inquiry, who can be called as a witness and what documents will be presented to the panel.

Israel insists that its soldiers be protected from prosecution. It wants more counterterrorism experts to be added to the group, and demands that activities by Palestinian militants in the camp also be scrutinized.

AP-NY-04-30-02 2151EDT

Copyright 2002 The Associated Press.



To: richard surckla who wrote (146723)5/1/2002 10:02:03 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571928
 
Well I guess that settles it.

What settles it?

Tim