To: EL KABONG!!! who wrote (2924 ) 5/1/2002 4:27:12 AM From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12465 Re: 4/30/02 - [DV] Yahoo poster who claims he "helped convict devry for loan fraud" creates fuctbydevry web site To all on this board......... by: tazz_tas 04/30/02 06:06 pm Msg: 1394 of 1413 My name is Tas Mouhteros, my friend (dv_vd2002) is also part of the group of 6 that went to devry with me and helped convict devry for loan fraud. I have decided to come back to the board and calm people down. There will always be conflict and one side cannot convert the other. All I ask is to keep an open mind to what our side posts. Don't forget, we were once students too. Here are some websites to look at plus an e-mail I received. Read them if you wish. fuctbydevry >http://nothingtosay.com/fuctbydevrymembers.tripod.com i didn't know that the ontario campus was nailed for loan fraud. that is pretty fukin serious. i am a full cash student (because devry fuked my paperwork up so my times) and i just received a letter saying "The Student Finance Office has been informed that you wish to apply for financial aid for the year 2002/2003 award year. However, we cannot continue to process your financial aid without the following information." (they wanted they ISIR which is the equivelant to the FAFSA) i never turned any paperwork in to them or the government for loans for a reason: i am a full cash student. i have not received any financial aid from them and i have been aproved for loans? fukin weird? yeah, i thought so too (well not AS weird since i received your email). i received a letter of the same nature from them last year as well. i spoke with the student finance office and they said that they couldn't give me any contact information for the agencies issuing the loans to verify that i don't ow e them anything. i know, its very shadey. i am starting to worry that they have been receiving loan checks and not telling me about it. many disgruntled students and i have many complaints about devry and that is why i started the site. we need a place to release our frustrations. it is also designed for other students to realize that they are not alone when it comes to dealing with these idiot administrators. in addition to all of that, it is a place to reflect on those frustrations. usually after your own editorial, you can pin-point the cause and a possible solution to those frustrations (but then again maybe not;) oh well, were trying. one last thing, since you seem to know some about the law surrounding devry's operations: could our site be seen as defamation to devry's name-space? we are attemting to keep admin and professor names from being named and that is why we don't have a user driven format just yet. we want to control the amount of slander dumped onto the site. but by doing so, we may be taking the burden/liability for posting the information ourselves. if you could clue us in we would appreciate that as well. Thanks. messages.yahoo.com ===== Re: To all on this board......... by: tazz_tas 04/30/02 06:14 pm Msg: 1395 of 1413 another part of the e-mail....... hey, just a few more things (only if you have the time). will you elaborate on how you found out about the loan fraud, how you blew the whistle and also what steps did you take to circumvent these idiot administrators to show them that you were serious. e.g. did you just get an attorney or did you start writing letters to key people in chicago, or..... also would you tell us the whole deal with the loan fraud. e.g. were students being ripped off or was it the government that was being ripped off and how was devry screwing them. (again, only if you have some spare time) Thank you. I see that www.nothingtosay.com/fuctbydevry did not come out correct so try it as seen here. These are from students in the United States who are unhappy with devrys attitude towards them. Posted as a reply to: Msg 1394 by tazz_tas messages.yahoo.com ===== Note: Correct link for the web site is: nothingtosay.com