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To: calgal who wrote (18607)5/2/2002 5:31:23 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 74559
 
>>When God says of Abraham and his descendants, "I will bless those that bless you, and curse those that curse you," evangelicals don't ask the duration of that promise, or whether it's conditioned on the requirements of U.S. foreign policy.<<

This argument always puzzles me.

The Arabs are sons of Abraham, too, through his wife's handmaiden, Hagar, who gave birth to Ishmael.

The split-off is at Jacob, Abraham's grandson, the son of Isaac, son of Abraham's wife, Sarah, about whom it says in the Bible that God promised his children that they would be His chosen people.

The Arabs, descendents of Ishmael, are therefore not God's chosen people, but definitely of the seed of Abraham.

I think the Muslims have a different take on this, BTW.

At any rate, evangelical Christians don't like to think of Jews as being God's chosen people, so they harp on the seed of Abraham thing.

Very weak argument, under the circumstances.

Not that I care, really. I think it's a silly argument. If God wants the Jews in Israel, He's certainly capable of making it happen without the assistance of the US taxpayer.

Not that I oppose helping Israel, I just think it's a weak argument.



To: calgal who wrote (18607)5/3/2002 12:03:02 AM
From: LLCF  Respond to of 74559
 
<<When it comes to fighting the scourge of civilization, Israel is the sole exception to the Bush doctrine. A strange dichotomy has evolved here. When the United States goes after terrorists in Afghanistan, it's preserving the peace. When Prime Minister Ariel Sharon targets suicide bombers on the West Bank, he's endangering the peace. >>

Who is this clown??? Since when is " Afganistan to the US" = to "West Bank is to Israel"???? Hello?

DAK