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To: Yousef who wrote (79222)5/3/2002 2:53:34 PM
From: ElmerRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
That's right, Jim ... INTC already is at .13um and will soon be in high volume on 300mm. Not only has AMD lost the MHz race, but they are no where near being equal to INTC on wafer cost.

You know, with Prescott looming, Intel will need their 90nm process running soon for 1st silicon. Maybe a quarter or so away? With Intel's .13u process running so well, it's not too hard to believe that 90nm is pretty close to a reality...

EP



To: Yousef who wrote (79222)5/3/2002 3:33:07 PM
From: Jim McMannisRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 275872
 
Paul,
RE:"That's right, Jim ... INTC already is at .13um and will soon be in high volume
on 300mm. Not only has AMD lost the MHz race, but they are
no where near being equal to INTC on wafer cost."

What gets me is that AMD converted to .18u within 6 months of Intel and was first to copper...yet now they are approaching a year behind Intel on converting to .13u and have no 300mm capacity.
As it looks AMD will have decent .13u production by the end of the summer...about the time all the OEMs have loaded up on higher speed P4s for the Christmas season. It's Palomino all over again one year later? Due in Q1 but not really available until Q3.
Jim



To: Yousef who wrote (79222)5/3/2002 5:09:57 PM
From: PetzRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
<[AMD is] no where near being equal to INTC on wafer cost>

Intel had a net profit margin of 10% with an ASP of about $160, maybe a little higher.
AMD had a net profit margin of minus 1% with an ASP of $85.

AMD's cost of production must be much lower.

Petz