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To: Paul Kern who wrote (28208)	5/4/2002 12:50:20 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

You believe that the Jews should be driven from the ME. Oh, for heaven's sake. I won't even bother with euphemisms. You are not talking bullshit, you are talking crap. There's no excuse for that type of behavior. CB@washyourmouthoutwithsoap.com

To: Paul Kern who wrote (28208)	5/4/2002 1:07:19 AM
From: tfrugal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Paul, do you really think we believe JohnM "is in favor of ethnic cleansing"? It seems to me you are trying to stuff words in his mouth. JM's postings speak for themselves, as do yours.......

To: Paul Kern who wrote (28208)	5/4/2002 1:13:21 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

When we were both 16, a good friend of mine (hi, Charlie!) developed the "sho is" theory of history. He spent the summer on a family farm in Texas. This was back before integration. The black people who worked on the farm were illiterate, and uneducated, but that did not keep them from having opinions about all the major events of the day. The important thing was not the factual basis for the opinions, but whether there was a consensus. Thus, if one of them said to the other, "the moon landing was a hoax," and the other one said, "sho is," it was a true fact, no matter what. It always surprises me to see such defects of reason in people I assume to be better educated, but such is life. The net is full of whack jobs, and a lot of them seem to have taken up residence on this thread. JohnM is not only as liberal as they come, he is also a great supporter of Israel in specific, and Jews in general. The people who would accuse him of wishing the demise of Israel and Jews are thus not only full of excreta, but odious and beneath contempt. Getting back to my original point, they are also ignorant, but unlike poor blacks in Jim Crow Louisiana, you have no excuse. You claim to be educated, but you have no learning nor understanding.

To: Paul Kern who wrote (28208)	5/4/2002 10:24:14 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

John M. You're the one who is in favor of ethnic cleansing. You believe that the Jews should be driven from the ME. It's the pot calling the kettle black. Paul, There are lots of excuses for bad behavior on the internet. And this is certainly an illustration of bad behavior. When I'm hit with it, I have to consider just how to reply. One of the best I've seen is LindyBill. His little opening comment, something on the order of, "and how was your day", always strikes me as among the best. So, I offer you the LB comment, "And how was your day?" Now, to a more serious reply. I assume what you are saying is that if (a) I offer rather mild criticisms of the Israelis' desire to keep the UN out of an investigation of Jenin; (b) ask a poster if his comment that West Bank Palestinians should consider leaving the WB if they wish peace, if that comment is the ethnic cleansing it sounds like (and he says he deeply believesin free choice, so, while questionable in this immediate context, I back away); and (c) am guilty, I guess, of some other unlisted comments (please provide documentation); then I must be anti-semitic, and all sorts of awful things. The problem of replying, at least in any serious sense, to that is the level of anger, rage, whatever about ME issues right now. I don't know what your levels are and thus am a bit hesitant to show you the full anger I feel at your comment. And FL is completely correct, he wishes to keep such off the thread. So, have a nice day.