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To: Lane3 who wrote (12435)	5/8/2002 9:05:19 AM
From: Rainy_Day_Woman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

nice grub [I wanted it]

To: Lane3 who wrote (12435)	5/8/2002 9:12:02 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21057

Agreed: as I would split them, anti-Semitism = the prejudice against Jews (OK, and in theory other Semites), especially but not solely the overtly religious, ranging from your father's old-fashioned prejudices (my grandmother was similar on blacks, to similar response from us as yours...) to Hitlerian hatred. It may cause or inflame the other two, but is distinct, and rare in the greater degree outside extremist political types in the West. anti-Israel = the common Arab position - IMO it's not the religion they dislike so much as the existence of Israel itself, especially (but not solely) its occupation of Arab land following the 67 war, invasion of Lebanon, etc. This may in turn cause anti-Semitism, I suspect. anti-Zionist = the dislike of "eretz Israel" policies, those for an Israel within biblical boundaries, based on 'kingdom of Zion' mythology. It's a mistake to see the current European far-right as anti-Semitic... it's more anti-Muslim, if anything, becasue there are more Muslim immigrants, and it's that which is the real base of the issue. For example, Le Pen is if anything anti-Semitic in the original meaning of the word - he (seems to) hate all Semites, whether Jewish or Arab. The Jewish part struck a small chord, hence his ~1-2% vote since the start, but it's the nationalist, unilateralist, patriotic - France first - and anti-immigrant stance that's won him votes. (As we know, I am repelled by unilateralism...). <edit> you got a dyslexic grub... does that count? <g>