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To: Voltaire who wrote (51135)5/8/2002 10:02:25 PM
From: Clappy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
HiV,

along with the convenient CSCO excuse and THEIR TIME CAPSULE is in place.

I'm trying to figure out what that capsule might be.
What passed on Tues that will now want them to run until Jan?

Israel talking peace?
Enough fear in the market place?
Did they reach some sort of mass phychological barrier?

What's out there.
What's the motive?

It seemed to me that they had everyone ready to hand over
their shares of all the blue chips. IBM, GE, etc.
All the Generals were getting killed.

Why have they been saved?
Are they not out of them yet?

Or is it simply that the Mutual fund managers are jackoffs
that panic as much as us small time traders/investors when
they hear some positive news?

Why do you think the blue chips will lead?
Possibly because the houses are not out of those stocks yet?

-Clapper



To: Voltaire who wrote (51135)5/8/2002 11:00:26 PM
From: Cactus Jack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
V,

Its nice to see you back.

What do you see that leads you to suspect a Gold trap?

jpgill



To: Voltaire who wrote (51135)5/8/2002 11:42:07 PM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
you wrongly assume the Fed is in control
they are not
they are caught in a box and are without policy leadership
they are at the end of the road with a high dollar, high stock valuations, low interest rates, and easy money
as you claim, any arguments as to why either go over your head or are dismissed as irrelevant

if the market is following the Fed Pied Piper, then they do so at great risk
the widening profit margins are with hard assets, not financial assets
this trend is not likely to be altered
absolutely no capitulation by the bulls yet, after all this time
they still have wet dreams over halcyon days of yore

the Fed cannot raise rates
the dollar is now proclaiming GreenSpasm's lack of control of the situation
or do you dismiss this development since January?
the gold eruption will display to all how outofcontrol they are

we had a one-day massive stock short covering rally typical of bears
it also is a delayed spring rally, as occurred in April 2001

you vacillate in your view
a week ago you say gold will leap higher
now you say it is a gold trap
why not admit the truth?

YOU HAVE NO IDEA ON MACRO-ECON FORCES, JUST LIKE AUG2000

today marked a bear rally in the USdollar
the dollar rally started before NYSE opened for trading
S&P futures coincided overnight

you know, the dollar which the Fed can write unlimited checks for?
and has written unlimited checks for?
endlessly? without consequence? to fix all problems?
THAT IS THE PROBLEM

the $22 trillion currency market has a big voice


time capsule, time capsule... what a load of crapp
your supposed time capsules mask superficiality
this stock market was wicked oversold, near limits
and more importantly, so was the USdollar
that is not a misprint: $22 trillion currency market
the ultimate veto on misguided policy
/ JW



To: Voltaire who wrote (51135)5/9/2002 12:17:35 AM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
news flash: Japan, China, India, Arabs control GOLD price

"gold trap" ???
tell that to those in almost total control

not Americans
not GreenSheiss or the Fed
not American Bullion Bankers
not European central bankers
not Hedged Miners

the biggest part of the gold market that eludes you is the lack of control we have in both the GOLD price and the DOLLAR value
over $2000 billion worth of TBonds are in foreign hands
with GOLD and US$ on opposite sides of the world SCALES

are you aware of GOLD's seasons? (their time capsules)
/ jim



To: Voltaire who wrote (51135)5/9/2002 4:44:01 PM
From: Dealer  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 65232
 
Manipulation....Posted by Dave Gore on another thread:


Richard Ney's Article -----Why manipulation is so easy
So, the big question: "Is the Small Guy Being Used"?

Excerpts from the above article
"The specialists are the heart of the exchange. The exchange, in turn, has practical control of the major corporations, banks, insurance companies, and brokerage houses in this country. These, in turn, influence news reporting and the regulatory agencies."

"The specialist has absolute control over price. He can match the buys with the sells in any way he sees fit. He can raise the price of the stock 3 points in three trades, and open the next day down 5."

"When the specialist has sold all his inventory, and has sold short, he will then begin a downward slide of prices so necessary to his plans. Slides are a mirror of rallies. Near the bottom, the specialist will increase the angle of price decline, alarming investors, scaring them into selling their shares to the specialist who needs them to cover his short sales, and to build a new inventory at wholesale. The media will remain bullish, or cautiously optimistic throughout a slide, until the last two weeks, when they will turn suddenly bearish (3Ney, 158)."

"The specialist, one of his partners, a friendly broker, their lawyers, or their bankers, often sit on the company's board of directors, which makes the specialist privy to information before the average trader. Where an officer of a corporation is held strictly accountable to the SEC for his use of 'inside information', the specialist and fellow brokers are accountable to no one (1Ney, 54-55)."

"The seeming unpredictability of stock prices is due to the fact that prices exist at the whim of the specialist."

"A stock is only worth what the specialist is willing to pay for it at the moment. The fluctuations you see are, in fact, the evidence of how the specialist is working out his inventory problems to meet his short-term, intermediate-term, and long-term goals (2Ney, 172). The specialist will sometimes 'leap frog' his prices up or down, creating a gap. This is done to keep a group of investors from buying or selling at a particular price. 'Leap Frogs' show specialist intent."

"The specialist has many advantages, many tools to use to pry dollars from unsuspecting investors and mutual funds. Chief among these advantages is his book. In his book he can see at a glance all the buy and sell orders from the public and the funds. His book tells him of potentially massive sales above and below his current price. This gives him a great advantage when he is trading on his own investment and omnibus accounts."

"Because of his book, the specialist sees shifts in trends long before anyone else. This gives him a great advantage. The specialist will buy heavily at the bottom of a slide (at wholesale) then advance prices and sell, at heavy volume, at the peak of the rally (retail). He will then sell short and take prices down. The turning points of a rally will be marked by heavly volume in the Dow 30 (3Ney, 85-89)."

"When he desires he can even make large block trades without entering them into his book. In this way the public is never made aware of those trades. Should the specialist want to supply a buy or sell order from his own accounts, rather than from public orders on book, he can and will do so (1Ney, 156). Ney cites specific examples when his customers orders were ignored while the specialist completed orders for his own accounts."

"It is highly unlikely that we will see news reports critical of U.S. stock exchanges, or of the specialist system. There is a simple reason for this. All news organiztions are corporations and do but reflect their management's views. Corporations that own media have specialists influencing the choice of management. Newspapers, magazines, and television are but extensions of the corporate world."

"When Richard Ney's first book, The Wall Street Jungle, came out it was on the New York Times best seller list for 11 months. Yet the New York Times would not review it. The Wall Street Journal refused to take an ad from a New York bookstore that featured The Wall Street Jungle (2Ney, 30)."

"All three of the major networks were wary of having Ney appear. NBC banned only two people from appearing on the Tonight show with Johnny Carson: Ralph Nader and Richard Ney. Not only do large banks, brokerage firms, and corporations advertise on television, they also are the largest stock holders (2Ney, 33- 34)."

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