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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (12605)	5/10/2002 12:52:46 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

"That has been true of no company I have ever worked at or any I am familiar with" What you are familiar with does not qualify the truth of the assertion. I can tell you that hundreds of thousands of employees work for beer and loose change. I know, because I have hired them at casual labor offices. That is the one side of the labour market which is hidden from you. You know only your own workplace, by and large. The other side hidden from you is a side that some of the RWE's here know very well. I can name you lawyers who have a bottle of scotch in their desk and are buzzed before noon. I can tell you another lawyer who spent half the day phoning his bookie and losing the daily profits. Don't compare your "company" to the crew that just laid your new lawn and have a case in the back of the truck. It is a big world, Lazarus. The trouble is that a lot of people only see it from a narrow and confined perspective. "While that may be true on your side of the pond, it certainly is not on this side." Wrong. It is true everywhere: From the RC priest down to the moldy hamburger bun that you just paid three dollars for. The industries that run your world generally have from 1 to 5 employees. You clearly don't have a clue how they operate, but drunk or sober...they will get your friggin car towed out of the no parking zone--so look sharp...

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (12605)	5/10/2002 3:27:35 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21057

That has been true of no company I have ever worked at or any I am familiar with. In fact, at all of them, drunkeness oon company property is grounds for immediate dismissal. I'm reminded of a project, some 20 years ago. One of the company VPs came over on Friday afternoon to see the R&D dept and the new gadgets and the regular tour. On one end of the lab was a couple of computer controlled environmental chambers in which temperature, humidity, and air flow could be precisely controlled. He was a little surprised when he looked in the access window and realized that one was set perfectly to keep the pizza hot while the other chilled the beer. Nobody was fired. Wasn't as funny as the time a large group went for a long lunch in which drinks were consumed. Most people decided to just go home. One guy left his keys in his desk and so went back to get them, there was someone in his office so he chatted waiting for the guy#2 to get to the point. He didn't, just proceeded with small talk. Finally the guy#2 asked the other what he wanted, only then did guy#1 realize he was on the wrong hall and that wasn't his office. We still laugh over that one. TP