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To: Thomas M. who wrote (1670)5/10/2002 4:19:57 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 6945
 
I didn't define fascism. Chomsky did. And he did say as clearly as is possible that "it worked" - he credits fascism with ending the Depression and said that all successful countries had become "sort of fascist".

In the Fascist countries, it worked out well - they got out pretty fast. And in fact, every country became sort of fascist;

...everybody's fascist, the only question is what form the fascism takes: it takes different forms depending on the country's cultural patterns.


Of course he wouldn't call himself a fascist for obvious reasons. I was careful to quote the entire passage to avoid a charge I was mis-characterizing his views.

Your "facts" about Israel seem to involve obscure minor issues. FWIW Chomsky has testified to the freedom of the Israeli press before. Israel clearly has a free press unlike every other country around it.

As an example, on page 208 of "Understanding Power: The Indispensable Chomsky" (what a pompous title!), Chomsky speaks of an article of his that had been published in an Israeli paper:

...recently I had an article in Israel's most important newpaper, Ha'aretz, which is kind of the equivalent of the New York Times: it was an implied critique of their foreing policy, and of the so-called "peace process."

Now, if an anti-Israeli crank like Chomsky can get articles published in major papers in Israel - they must have a serious commitment to press freedom.



To: Thomas M. who wrote (1670)5/10/2002 4:30:10 PM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 6945
 
<< --- In 1983, the Israeli government ordered Israeli TV and radio to stop using the Hebrew word "ishim" ... >>

This little bit of meaningless trivia reminds me of the trivial accomplishments of Palestinians throughout history. In fact, without oil, the major contribution to the world from Muslim societies is terrorism.

But, that means nothing to you. You are so upset that Israeli, 20 years ago, wanted to suppress the word "ishim" that you can't sleep at night! <g>