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To: tekboy who wrote (29248)	5/11/2002 11:17:07 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I just read a superb analysis of Islamism as a revolutionary movement that drew on Skocpol, Huntington, and Goldstone to explain things theoretically. Is there a digitized version that is sharable? Who is Goldstone? And it's fun to see Skocpol and Huntington in the same sentence. Theda would, of course, love that. Dont' know Huntington.

To: tekboy who wrote (29248)	5/11/2002 11:25:20 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The course is part of a set of seminars for first semester, first year students. The seminars are small (absolute maximum of 15 students) so that faculty are expected to spend time teaching writing and library research skills. Also, now, internet research skills (though, on this latter score, much of that is passed back and forth among students, many know how to do it much better than faculty). Topics vary in terms of faculty interest and student willingness. Just that all incoming students have to take one. There is some interest in at least one of the seminars being about technology and the military in light of 9-11. A part of my argument is that these kinds of discussions don't work in the abstract, certainly not with most 18 year olds. So why not focus it on specific scenarios, in which case, they would need, most likely to understand the Islamists better. This is all quite tentative. I've been asked to spend some time on campus in late May or early June. That will give me a better idea whether this is all talk (you will recognize the problem) or actually has some sort of specific course in mind.

To: tekboy who wrote (29248)	5/11/2002 11:44:23 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Just spotted Goldstone. As of January of 02 he was at UC Davis in sociology. Looked to have been a student of Skocpol's at Harvard. Went all the way through there which is not a good idea. Here's an interesting set of responses he wrote last September, posted on the ssrc website, about bin Laden, et al, to Charles Tilly. ssrc.org And here's Tilly's original e-mails (note the date of 9-12-01) to which Goldstone replies: ssrc.org In case anyone does not know, Charles Tilly is one of our most eminent historical sociologists. His focus has been revolutionary movements in 19th century Europe. Tilly's predictions made in the few days just after 9-11 and Goldstone's response (no doubt, there were others) are of interest for more than simply their historical value, given Tilly's placement in academia, but as an interesting exercise in social science prediction, which he clearly intends it to be.