To: ChinuSFO who wrote (4253 ) 5/12/2002 8:36:24 PM From: Zeev Hed Respond to of 32591 Chinmoy, it was a Communist General that commanded his troops, "I don't want to to die for the Motherland, I want you to live for her, dig these trenches deeper...." Patton later borrowed that epitaph quite successfully. As for Netanyahu, give him the "Zeev" plan outlined before and he'll call it the "Zeev Jabotinski" plan and endorse it with both hands. You know, you should go on Amazon.com and pick a very fine book (minor parts of which were written by Netanyahu). amazon.com This is a collection of the letters of his brother, Jonathan Netanyahu, the Commander of the Entebe rescue force (he died in that operation to save more than 100 other souls). You will discover the true colors of a ey typical Israeli commander, not much different than Ariel Sharon or Benjamin Netanyahu. There are some letters that could make even an old cynic like me wipe some moist eyes. Netanyahu is no monster, he is just struggling like many to find a way to solve the problem without having to repeat another five times the last five wars Israel had to fight for its existence. By the way, as far as "aggression", the international law is quite clear, the closing of internationally open water ways, is an act of war. All the wars between the Arabs and the Israeli were defensive wars. 48, Israel was invaded, 56, Nasser closed both the Suez canal and the Tiran Straight, 67, Egyptian forced the "international UN force out of the Sinai and closed the Tiran straight again, 73, Syria and Egypt nvaded on the holiest day on the Jewish calendar (and we were arguing whether to continue fighting the Taliban on Ramadan), 82, questionable, after years of invasions and murders of civilians on the northern border, and the inability of the Lebanese army to control these invasions, Israel invaded to take out the terorists nests, aggressive? No more than our going after the Talibans. Zeev