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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14592)	5/14/2002 7:14:45 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

<< Could it all be an act to make Sharon appear to be less repulsive? >> The fact that Sharon was a military genius, and was able to defeat the invasion of the combined Arab nations, really gets to you, and your Arab friends. Anti-Semitism and jealousy always go hand in hand. You are a good example of this.

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14592)	5/15/2002 4:41:56 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Colonialism's bumpy road.... Russians lend toughness as Israel faces up to terror Immigrants bear grief of conflict, determined to persevere in new land By Bill Glauber Sun Foreign Staff Originally published May 12, 2002 TEL AVIV - The smokejumper from Siberia was used to leaps of faith, parachuting into remote forests to fight fierce fires. Four years ago, jobless in the former Soviet Union, he took another plunge, leaving a tattered Siberian city named Novosibirsk and taking his wife and four children to Israel. "It was," he said, "like a miracle." He had left a country that in every sense seemed to be in a deep freeze and arrived in another warmed by a hot desert wind. He found a job as a dishwasher in a restaurant, working 80 hours, supporting his family, making sure his four kids got the best schooling, the best clothes. And 11 months ago, he allowed his 16-year-old daughter Mariana to go with her friends to a seaside disco in Tel Aviv. He still remembers the night - Mariana with her short hair and long limbs, laughing and trying on clothes with her friends, dancing to a Madonna single, and then, out the door, forever. The next time he saw her was at the morgue, her body still warm, a shrapnel wound in the back of the head. Mariana was among 21 killed in a suicide bombing that ripped through the heart of Israel's new immigrant community from the old Soviet Union. So now, Victor Medvedenko, a sad-eyed 47-year-old with a weathered face, trim beard and rueful smile, is left to sit in his apartment at night contemplating his family's destroyed dreams. 'That day my daughter died, of course I regretted coming to Israel," Medvedenko said. "I kept thinking, 'I'm guilty and I can't change anything.' But now, I am ready to fight for this land." [snip] sunspot.net Those Russkies are nuts, aren't they? "...'I'm guilty and I can't change anything.' But now, I am ready to fight for this land." Len, can you tell me why the guy wasn't "ready to fight for his MOTHER RUSSIA in the first place???? On what planet these crazy, racist, Russian rednecks think they're hanging about? Millions of wretches are slumming it in their homelands worldwide --from China to India to Africa to Argentina to.... Well, just because you pretend to be Jewish or half-Jewish or your grandma was half-Jewish, BINGO! You lucked out! You just won a oneway ticket to the Promised Land! "Sea, sex and sun" resorts freshly stolen from "Arab bums" are waiting for you and your brave Jewish family... a few blocks from the beach --courtesy of Uncle Sam-- your dream gated community for Russian underachievers only! What would Judeofascist Russkies do if it happened to them the other way round? That is, hundreds of thousands of Muslim settlers gate-crashing Moscow and FORCEFULLY seizing the properties and real estate of White Russians?? That Russian immigrant lost his beloved daughter in the disco sacrifice-bombing --does he only know that in Western Europe most discos don't allow darkies in? What seemed so natural for his daughter --dancing all night long in a disco-- is routinely denied to Arab-looking immigrants all across the "civilized West". Gus

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (14592)	5/15/2002 5:00:30 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 23908

Footnote: Separate and unequal in France David Ignatius International Herald Tribune Saturday, April 27, 2002 PARIS If slavery is America's "original sin," as the sociologist Gunnar Myrdal observed more than a half-century ago, then colonialism is surely one of the original sins of modern France. Its legacy festers in the sorry success of the right-wing candidate Jean-Marie Le Pen in the first round of the presidential election last Sunday. Think of today's France as America in 1968, and of Le Pen as a Gallic version of George Wallace. Le Pen expresses the anxiety many French people feel about rising crime and social unrest, just as Wallace's third-party candidacy fed off fears among white Americans in the civil rights era. It is easy to forget now that Wallace's overtly racist "Send Them a Message" campaign in 1968 captured 13 percent of the U.S. presidential vote. [...] iht.com Actually, the author might as well have written it as follows: Think of today's France as Israel in 2002, and of Le Pen as a Gallic version of Ariel Sharon. Le Pen expresses the anxiety many French people feel about rising crime and social unrest, just as Sharon's Likud candidacy fed off fears among Jewish Israelis in the intifada era. It is easy to forget now that Sharon's overtly racist "Send Them a Message" campaign in 2000 captured 68 percent of the Israeli legislative vote. As I said, Israel is Europe's political laboratory. It experiments what I called Home Colonialism in its utter logic... There's a resonance phenomenon binding Europe and Israel: the same Judeofascist forces that have turned Israel into a bloody garrison-state can take over Europe tomorrow --with dreadful consequences. Gus