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To: carranza2 who wrote (18976)	5/14/2002 7:30:02 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

carranza2, Re: but what's the alternative? Community development, rather than corporate exploitation. Citizens need to become alarmed that they are being sold out by their masters: nytimes.com We need more bosses like Aaron Feuerstein of Malden Mills: reputation-mgmt.com hadassah.org And a lot fewer scoundrels like Ken Lay, David Komansky, Harvey "the snake" Pitt, and Lyin' Lou Dobbs. We are suffering an ethics crisis in this country, and there's damn little that the honchos intend to do to end their rein of greed and terror on the well-being of the workers of America. Re: I'm halfway convinced that the mess in the Middle East is as much caused by poverty as it is by religious fanaticism. What's holding you back from the other half? I'm thoroughly convinced that the religious fanaticism is a result of jealousy over the inequality that the fanatics sense in the world. Grinding poverty for the many while a small elite have extraordinary wealth has never been a formula for sanguine social relationships. Why do we have suicidal freedom fighters? Because it beats the alternative, a lifetime of subjugation. Might as well go out in a blaze of glory, taking out as many oppressors as possible in the act. Re: What's the alternative? Fooling the poor into thinking they're getting their fair share. Propogandists like John Rendon, a prime contractor to the War Rackets Department has been trying to do this for years, getting embarassed over his Office of Strategic Influence boldness, but never ceasing to lie to all who would listen. But his message is falling on deaf ears, when it comes to what is spouted out of Radio Marti, or Radio Free Europe. Or our current efforts in Afghanistan. The poor can be fooled for a while, but they certainly can't be made to believe the US Government is their friend. The alternative might be for the US Government to make at least a modest attempt at telling the truth. It would astonish me and amaze much of the rest of the world. If the US Government were to decide to be a bit less intrusive and meddlesome in the affairs of nations halfway around the globe, we'd find a whole lot less animosity to American chicanery, greed and aggressiveness. But, that's all wishful thinking. It's no alternative at all. The real alternative is to give the military its head, and let it attack poor people in Afghanistan, Columbia, Kazakstan and Yemen, Somalia, Philipines, Indonesia, Cuba, etc. ad nauseum. Basically, on most issues, we are linked with Israel and opposed by about 190 other nations. The military are chomping at the bit and ready to rumble. And we're just enabling these power-drunken madmen with huge deficit spending bills to support our insanity. Is this nuts, or what? d-n-i.net Here's the uplink: d-n-i.net Re: Perhaps the only way to improve a nation's lot is to go through the laborious process of slowly accumulating capital, developing an infrastructure, and lifting all boats with the tide. A better start would be to clean up the corruption and perceived inequality that seems to overwhelming human relations these days. Wishful thinking.... I know, I know. Send in the thugs! And pay the bribes: transparency.org -R.