To: E. Charters who wrote (85480 ) 5/17/2002 11:22:52 PM From: Richnorth Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116805 It was good that the landing at Inchon turned out to be successful for the Marines. I read in the papers way back in 1952/53 that the Marines had a very tough time landing at Inchon. Instead of moving on top of sand at the beach, men and equipment had to struggle to keep from sinking in the loose and slimy mud. Fortunately, the invasion at Inchon came as a total surprise for the North Koreans. Result: the Marines met with little resistance and succeeded in landing and from there they and the allies forced the North Koreans to retreat all the way to the Yalu River which marks the border between North Korea and Manchuria. General MacArthur became an instant hero! At the Yalu River, however, Red Chinese "volunteers" sacrificed themselves in "human waves" forcing the GIs and Marines and allied forces to retreat. MacArthur recommended nuking the Chinese hordes. But Prez Harry Truman fired him, replacing him with General Matthew Ridgeway, an opportunist. Ridgeway was in turn replaced by General Van Fleet. Eventually truce talks, between the North Koreans on one side and the US and South Korea on the other, began at Pyongyang, the North Korean capital city near the 38th parallel. At these meetings, the North Koreans sat on high chairs and the allies were made to sit at a lower level on hard and uncomfortable chairs. These meetings evolved into bladder-control sessions. The participants often sat long hours without reaching agreement. And the side that was first to seek relief in the washroom was considered to have "lost" in that particular session. Apparently with the help of drugs, the allies were finally able to sit out the sessions better than the North Koreans did. <ggg> By the way, old veterans who had fought in the Korea told me the Red Chinese captors treated their prisoners much better than the North Koreans did and, of all the prisoners, it was the Turks that were the toughest and they fared best under the harsh conditions (the horrible winter and food etc) there.