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To: chalu2 who wrote (14708)5/19/2002 1:57:56 AM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 23908
 
A better question is why no Muslim state has free elections, or freedom of speech.

Iran was a Muslim state, had free elections, and then the U.S. overthrew the elected leader in favor of a dictator.

Furthermore:

<<< In 1958, the U.S. government faced, you know, from internal records, three major crises in the world. North Africa, Middle East and Indonesia, all with oil producing states, all Islamic states.

President Eisenhower, in an internal discussion, observed to his staff, and I'm quoting now, "There's a campaign of hatred against us in the Middle East, not by governments, but by the people." The national security council discussed that question and said, "yes, and the reason is, there's a perception in that region that the United States supports status quo governments, which prevent democracy and development and that we do it because of our interests in Middle East oil. Furthermore, it's difficult to counter that perception because it's correct. It ought to be correct. We ought to be supporting brutal and corrupt governments which prevent democracy and development because we want to control Middle East oil, and it's true that leads to a campaign of hatred against us." >>>

cbc.ca

Tom



To: chalu2 who wrote (14708)5/19/2002 4:26:11 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Respond to of 23908
 
Because we make a case about the Palestinians and the Arab countries as a smoke screen to divert the issue of Isra-El and it's expansionist policies.

As we have discussed previously, Isra-El makes noise about having a proto-Constitution, so that indicates that they think a Constitution is an issue, when te subject comes up.



To: chalu2 who wrote (14708)5/19/2002 6:26:05 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
Sharon is warned of assassination plot by radical Jews

timesonline.co.uk

THE Israeli internal security service, Shin Beth, fears a radical Jewish group is planning to assassinate Ariel
Sharon, the prime minister, who has been warned by
intelligence advisers to keep public appearances to a
minimum.

Shin Beth has identified extremists in settlers’ groups as the
likely plotters, and has activated agents to infiltrate their
underground networks.

The settlers have been infuriated by Sharon’s support for an
independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza. After
he reiterated it at last weekend’s conference of his Likud party,
security was tightened around his ranch in the Negev desert.

Shin Beth is still haunted by its failure to protect Yitzhak Rabin,
the prime minister assassinated in 1995 by a fanatical opponent
of his plan to trade land for peace.

A recent plot to bomb an Arab girls’ school was foiled by Shin
Beth but convinced its senior officers that the militants were a
growing menace.

Two weeks ago a police patrol was sent to Jerusalem’s Arab
neighbourhood of A-Tur to look for a suspicious vehicle. Next
to the school two officers found a car with Israeli registration
plates towing a trailer that two men were trying to detach.

The police were suspicious about the presence of Jews in an
Arab neighbourhood during the intifada but were about to
release them when they were told by radio to check the trailer. It
was found to be loaded with explosives, and a timer primed to go
off at 7.35am, just as the girls would have been arriving at
school.

A search of the car yielded illegal arms and the men were taken
for interrogation in Jerusalem. A court ordered a news blackout
and Sharon was informed that a potential bloodbath had been
averted. “Foiling that plan was more important to us than the
exposure of an Arab suicide bomber,” said one security officer.

Two further suspects were arrested later. “These are not
innocent people, these are murderers,” said a source close to the
inquiry.

Spanish radio reported last night that an agreement had
been reached on the final destinations of 13 Palestinian
militants taken out of the besieged Church of the
Nativity in Bethlehem last week. Spain and Italy are
each to take three of the militants, Greece and Ireland
two each, and Portugal, Finland and Cyprus one each.
The 13 are currently in Cyprus.



To: chalu2 who wrote (14708)5/20/2002 2:39:20 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908
 
The Meaning of East Timor's Nationhood

nytimes.com

"Ralf Dahrendorf, a sociologist and the former director of the London School of Economics, has thought quite a bit
about state-building and has written about it as a three-stage process. The first, which he calls the "hour of the lawyers,"
is when new constitutions are written, including basic rights and the rule of law. There has been a lot of this going
around — not only with new states, like East Timor, but with some old ones that needed to come up with new charters
after Communism collapsed."

"So, naturally, a lot of what brand-new and recycled states first emphasize is constitution writing. Herman Schwartz, a constitutional law professor at American University, has closely watched and often advised on the process in emerging nations like the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Estonia, Mongolia and South Africa. "Everyone was different," he observed.
"Usually they tried to go back to something in their own history — either real or imagined. In Bulgaria, for example, a unicameral legislature had been traditional, so they favored that."