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To: carranza2 who wrote (30043)	5/18/2002 10:21:52 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Steady on there Carranza. <Plus, the cowards strike without warning. At the end of the day, MAD was a great thing because it worked. And the proof of it is that we're communicating at this very instant. > I don't think it's cowardly to strike without warning. That's normal military strategy. It would be absurd to warn and then try to strike when people are fighting back or have escaped. "Announcing the arrival of a Daisy Cutter at 3.45 pm following afternoon prayers. Please arrange to meet at the epicentre so we can kill a LOT of you". Nah, that's not how it works. On the "MAD worked" business, it wasn't actually the MAD which worked. Each full moon, I chanted incantations which is the main reason we didn't get MAD. But also, NZ was selling butter to USSR and I bought a Lada too, so they were feeling happy. We also buttered up the USA. It wasn't the MAD which saved us all. Correlation is not the same thing as causation. Of course the MAD fan club claims that the nukes saved us from nuclear war. No they didn't. Gorby probably played a big part. Right now we have India and Pakistan armed to the teeth and about to have the world's first two-sided nuclear war. According to your argument, they should be as MAD as all get out, so ironically as safe as houses. But they are fighting over Kashmir so MAD hasn't created peace light and harmony in the Hindu Kush. hindunet.org Hmm, I just learned, thanks to Google and that link, that Hindu Kush means "Hindu Killer" as in the Hindus get killed, not that the Hindus do the killing. There's enough MAD for my liking. Mqurice PS: Actually, I had a friend, Graham Rodgers, in Tauranga, [a city in NZ where we lived for 5 years from 1978 to 1983] who got the pip with the National government of NZ over a clawback tax on kiwifruit farms. I suggested after badminton one lunchtime, sitting on the grass outside the hall, that rather than arguing with the unreceptive National government, he should form a political party, which I suggested calling the New Zealand Party, which would get votes from Muldoon's [the Prime Minister] government and cause National to lose the next election. Graham went to see his lawyer buddy, Bill Taylor, who went to see Bob Jones [a notable wealthy guy here] and they did indeed form that party. National lost the election as a direct result of the NZ Party votes [about 12% I think]. Labour won, and introduced, among other things, a nuke-free policy, which led to various ructions including the Frog men and woman of France's military conducting a terrorist attack in Auckland Harbour. Gorby became boss in USSR and noticing this commotion and figuring that nukes were not a good way to conduct international relations arranged a unilateral test ban and a meeting with Raygun in Iceland where they almost agreed quite a bit truce in nukes. You know the rest. A butterfly in Tauranga ....