To: Raymond Duray who wrote (256824 ) 5/19/2002 5:54:31 PM From: Thomas A Watson Respond to of 769667 Well ray, I see you abandoned you belief in the Oh so corrupt free market system. No reply to my analysis..... #reply-17486970 well Ray, I won't go to sarcastic and just ask a question. What is the question about? Well about if you think in terms of numbers the following is a really stupid proffer....... "Michael, when I look at the practitioners of "free markets" and their strongest advocates, I find people like Jeff Skilling, Ken Lay, Michael Milken and other outright criminals. That's what troubles me about "free markets". They always devolve into abusive swindles." The questions. How many times have you been swindled in the tens of thousands of transactions that you have participated in???? What is my personal answer to that question??? Your perspective is always and my life experience is, hmmm when have I suffered from an abusive swindle in the marvelous Free Market American economy. I have shopped thousands of times and bought tens of thousands of stuff and it all worked pretty well or was what I wanted. A few times I've encountered problems and especially with the huge retail chains I got my money back just like they advertised. I build all my own computers and that's a few dozen. I've bought the parts, chasis, software over the internet (200 times), at computer flea markets (100 times) and at huge retail chains (100 times) at commercial resellers like tech data (50 times) at auctions (40 times) I've never been swindled once. So if because you can think of three names of guys who were dishonest out of the millions of folks around your town, your county, your state and the USA and from that ratio of millions to three conclude that "free markets". They always devolve into abusive swindles." Then I by the numbers would conclude that maybe you are just a very unlucky consumer or a really really stupid consumer or just full of stupid ideas or you have no understanding of simple arithmetic. tom watson tosiwmee