To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (257236 ) 5/21/2002 2:38:54 PM From: Frederick Smart Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 Fiat, Funny and Tom.... >>well let's just go to your fiat. I guess you saying it's not backed by gold anymore. But why is au not just FIAT funny money which is backed by the faith, trust, time. I have no use for gold. I'm a platinum man. So what has ever changed. Men agree on the exchange value for goods and services and quantify that. You cannot get past something... Read St Mark.. webear.com tom watson tosiwmee>> FIAT money is simply a paper charade. Nothing of any lasting value that can be measured and quantified morally and ethically in a free way backs it. But the current FIAT system is actually using and abusing our time, trust and energy in the way that it's placing human beings and their families and friends into a conditionalized contract slave model which has us working for this world nation state religion under duress by force of control, application of fear and the use of a controlled court system that's designed to continue supporting this unconditutional contract slave system. It's "the art of slavery" in it's most despicable application yet ever devised by mankind. The new plantation owners are the international bankers who control the flow of money and who possess this negative mediating power which comes from their monopoly contract with various governments around the world. If you think the system is fair, then just observe the pernicious double-edged sward effect of taxation and inflation has in confiscating wealth in our country. If you think the system is fair then what do you think gives some select few in the financial system the right to charge "we the people" interest on money they claim to create out of THIN AIR using their monopoly blank check but it's really OUR time, OUR trust, OUR creativity and OUR willingness and property that is backing it!!?? The act of charging interest on NOTHING is immoral, unethical and goes straight to the ancient Biblical admonition against usery - read Ezekiel Chapter 18 for starters. These immoral-unethical acts of charging interest on NOTHING creates these baloney mortgage contracts that have families paying interest - ON NOTHING - for the first 25 years of a 30 year loan. Families are being put in a position of having to slice, dice, claim and carve this annuity stream out of our world - working against the time and trust of others - for 25 years so that these banks can book this as pure income-profit. Keep in mind that banks DO NOT get the $300,000 that they lend to you from other depositors. For they have the power as granted by the Fed to create the $300K out of thin air - as if they own a printing press inside the bank - as they book the $300K mortgage as an asset with it's offsetting liability which is our contract to pay interest on NOTHING for the first 25 of the 30 year loan. The equitable and fair and ordered way for this to work has been outlined in wonderful detail in a site I'd highly recommend, complete with a Bill that's been presented to memembers of Congress - see www.nesara.org. That is, banks charge a ONE-Time fee - say 10-15% - for the service to create the currency which is completely backed by the asset of the house we are purchasing. And after this payment ALL loan payments on the $300K loan get booked directly back to principal. This way will instill a sense of ownership and responsibility and order back into a completely immoral, confusing and corrupt model. As for St. Mark, I'm still loving St. John, but I'll get there!! 119293!!