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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: jlallen who wrote (48079)5/22/2002 11:41:54 AM
From: J. C. Dithers  Respond to of 82486
 
even the generally like minded sometimes disagree. This is one of those occasions.....

That seems to me to be a very apt nutshell summation...

I more than inclined to desist further. Though some things just won't quit, it seems <g>.



To: jlallen who wrote (48079)5/22/2002 12:31:57 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 82486
 
It all turns on whether he knew, or should have known, the affects of his actions, accepting Poet's attribution of her anxieties to him. If it were deliberate from the beginning, and an attempt to either do her harm or "muscle" her into yielding, then the people most inclined to beat upon CH are justified. But what if he never had reason to anticipate such a bad reaction? After all, he is not a shrink, and he did not consider his activities to be like Vendit's. Well, it is still the case that as he went along, and she reacted badly, he should have gotten an inkling that he was tapping into some sort of alarm, and thus gotten the clue that he was exacerbating a propensity towards high- level anxiety. That seems to be where we are. It is insufficient to talk about treating the world of SI as a "playground" when someone is getting freaky right before your eyes, and you have information which should make it clear to you that she is vulnerable. It should be taken into account that CH did go through quiet periods, and may have thought that that established that he was not cyber- stalking her, and that he lives on the other side of the country from Poet, and may have thought that would protect against real fear that he might become a literal stalker. So I would say that he has not acknowledged enough culpability, when he shouldn't have remained clueless, but that there are valid reasons for him to have not appreciated fully the effects of his actions. Thus, I think that Chris should be more forthcoming in admitting that he became rancorous and was, to a degree, simply mean to Poet, and that others should acknowledge that he was probably not fully aware of the consequences of his actions.......



To: jlallen who wrote (48079)5/29/2002 3:33:40 PM
From: Yogizuna  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
There is absolutely no question that mental abuse can be just as devastating as physical in certain situations. Those who ignore this are either living in a dream world, or already know it and just forge ahead defending the abuse anyway.