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To: Ilaine who wrote (30458)5/23/2002 8:04:17 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Good reply CB. One of the things which I dislike in many situations is the expectation that we [meaning I] should suspend thinking because we all know that what we are dealing with is so bad, so we should just do as we are told, accept the official line, don't inquire, check, investigate or think for ourselves.

When people don't like me thinking and checking, I have never found it to be for a good reason. It is invariably to avoid me coming up with information or ideas which they prefer not to exist. Usually they want to be the boss.

You are quite right in what you were writing [about that subject anyway].

About the Holocaust Museum, in October 1999 I visited with our daughter Emily [19 at the time]. At the entry, they were giving out cards with the name and personal details of somebody who had died in the Nazi genocide of Jews. It made the visit personal [an actual identifiable person was represented by the museum, not just a nameless pile of shoes]. Being of an inquisitive nature, I had a look through the cards and they were [nearly - I forget if there were any females] all males. I asked the person there why that was. They didn't know.

I assumed it was because there was information on males or that it was a sexist approach or maybe males are considered head of the family or males had more interesting backgrounds other than 'got married, had children' or something.

Do you know why that would be?

I've been to Dachau and the Holocaust Museum and Hiroshima and Arlington Cemetery. All that was supposed to be in the past. Now we have the second nuclear war likely to start and we are waiting to see what Osama's crowd [or Saddam's or whoever is supporting the attacks] will do next. The daily horror continues in Israel.

People are insane.

Mqurice



To: Ilaine who wrote (30458)5/23/2002 9:48:22 AM
From: FaultLine  Respond to of 281500
 
Thus, when I explain what motivated people, that does not mean that I believe that their motivation was ethical.

excellent post, CB

--fl



To: Ilaine who wrote (30458)5/23/2002 12:32:35 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 281500
 
...act in their own self interest....doing something very strange, like genocide, I wonder what interest they are acting in...

They have been seduced by "altruism" into believing that genocide is in their own self interest. They are doing it for "the good of society".

The great organized "evils" done in History have always been done in the name of the "Witch Doctor" or the "Tribal Chief". Do it because "God Wills it" or "The good of the state demands it."

Or as Hitler used to scream from his Podium, "You are nothing, the people are everything!"



To: Ilaine who wrote (30458)5/23/2002 1:14:48 PM
From: LTK007  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<<Jung, having lived through the experience, was entitled to discuss the mental state of people whom he observed directly.>. Jung himself denounced himself on this, let Jung be the judge on his own life. Thank You.